Suggestion 2011/03/30(Wed)21:31 No. 292034 ID: 3392ab
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And this is one such person.

Wandering from town to town, he gathers information about nearby, unpillaged dungeons where, with enough luck, he can earn a handsome amount of cash to keep himself on his feet. Equipped with nothing but his sword and the armour on his back, he dives alone into the unknown and fights off the monsters dwelling in the dungeon until he finds his ultimate reward. It's a risky business, but the thrill and bounty more than make up for it.

Most divers have a way of letting others know who pillaged the dungeon they're in. Sometimes it's as simple as a small insignia; other times they paint a mural with the blood of their enemies. This guy here? He likes to carve his name after all is said and done. Indeed, after using his sword to do the talking for him in what often feels like an endless battle, he uses it one last time to say these two words...

>Name

Mushroom Head.

Alan Pearson.

Jack Abrams

Little Mac

Trent Sprintblonde

pewter parkour

>>292036
Kageto Kinoshita.

Jacques DeSinge.

well, you could always carve "gary was here, greenie is a loser!"

Stab Rockfight

Earthen toned clothes.
Blonde hair.
Steel toed boots.
White.

Earthblonde Steeltoe McWhitey

>>292046
This

Suggestion 2011/03/30(Wed)22:23 No. 292065 ID: 3392ab
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>>292037
>>292043
>He uses it one last time to say these two words...:

"Allan Sprintblonde." A little tacky, perhaps, but there's not much anyone can do about their name.

At any rate, Allan has ventured forth into the dense forests of Coillte in search of a well-storied dungeon near a small village. The townsfolk were, ah, less than informative on the subject, and would often shy themselves away upon its mention. Even so, Allan managed to gather up enough information to find it's general location.

"The Dungeon Domhain," shortened down to just "Domhain" by most of the villagers, is his destination. It has a number of floors, each descending deeper and deeper into the earth, which have unique and, as some residents put it, settling designs.

But how difficult could Domhain really be? It's been known for over twenty years, so surely it's almost been cleared by now. Allan takes it as a challenge, if anything.

Collect apples, or whatever fruit is on the trees. Inventory pack-rats ahoy!

Suggestion 2011/03/30(Wed)22:26 No. 292067 ID: 3392ab
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But that's enough pointless and vague backstory. Allan currently finds himself at a clearing in the woods, the dirt trail beneath his feet surrendering to the surrounding grass. A massive cliff face stands before him with an opening no taller than himself facing outward. The musty smell of sweat and dirt practically forms an aura around it. Allan figures this is the place...

Head on in? Or examine the area a little more?

dodge the falling leaf!

>>292065

Watch out, that leaf might turn you into a raccoon.

I'm still going with collecting the local fruit. Never know when you're going to need a pick-me-up.

ack, sorry. should probably put [cutscene] in the topic or something so we know not to post. also is the first image supposed to be animated? it doesn't if it is supposed to.

Take apple, go in

Take all the apples.

ALL OF THEM

Get killed by falling apple and explode into a giant fountain of blood.

Suggestion 2011/03/30(Wed)23:53 No. 292092 ID: 3392ab
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>>292066
>>292070
>>292072
>>292077
The apples are huge and look delicious! Which is good, Allan thinks, since he'll no doubt be eating these later. Allan takes three off of the trees and stores them away for later feasting.

>>292079
This sounds like a terrible way to start off! It would be a disgrace to call yourself the guy and be killed by a measly apple. And who doesn't want to be the guy?

Suggestion 2011/03/30(Wed)23:53 No. 292093 ID: 3392ab
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Allan enters the cave.

A sheet of wood with a door in the center acts as the "official" entrance to Domhain. It's a wonder that the door doesn't come right off its hinges when Allen enters the room. A long creak echoes through the room.

Shutting the door behind him, Allen examines the chamber. He immediately notices the small table in the center of the room. Judging by its condition, it's a new addition to the room. Well, new-er, at least. It's covered in dust, so its no doubt been a while since someone was last here. On it rests a book and a plate with half a loaf of bread on it. Two rats are scurrying beneath the table, trying to look for a way up.

On the back wall hangs a lit candle which illuminates the room and gives off a small amount of heat. The same wall curiously changes from a rough, bumpy cave wall to a smooth, polished wall. The smooth section has a small door-like contraption at the bottom of it with a hole just in front of it.

Opposite of Allan is the door to the next room.

It's nice and cool in here compared to outside, but everything feels all damp and heavy. A familiar atmosphere for Allan, but not exactly a welcome one.



There are quite a few things in this room. Allan can examine some of them, or he can just hurry on to the next room and try to get this over with as soon as possible.

TURN THE FUCK AROUND.

There is a flower and A FLOATING LEAF OUT THERE.

GET THOSE, QUICK.

Read that book!

Also, take pity and throw the rats some bread crumbs.

yes helping rats has all kinds of benefits. and grab that not without putting anything over the circle on the floor.

>>292093
Befriend rats, feed them their desires.

hug rats, read note

>>292093
First things first:
The poor rats are hungry. Give them the bread.

Then, read the book, and read the note over on the wall (don't step on the square in front of it)

>>292093
May as well toss the horribly stale bread onto the floor for the rats. Also check out the book.

Pull the door off its hinges and make it into some torches.

>>292093
Examine the room, see what the book is about, read the note and check how old the bread is.

>>292093
Sign the guestbook.
Also read the note. Maybe that's some kind of rat-door thing

Suggestion 2011/03/31(Thu)19:37 No. 292374 ID: 3392ab
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>>292096
>>292099
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>>292133
Allan steps over to the desk and picks up the book. Taking a seat on the (hopefully) sturdy table, he starts to pick away at the bread to feed to the rats. The bread is still fairly fresh.

The cover of the book looks like it was covered in a thick layer of dust, but it was recently all brushed off. The pages are really brittle and torn, showing how old this book really is. It's aptly labeled "Domhain" in black ink.

Suggestion 2011/03/31(Thu)19:38 No. 292375 ID: 3392ab
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Allan flips open the book and starts to read. It's not a guest book at all! More like... a guide, by the looks of it. The table of contents only mentions three things: A preface, located on the next page; A map, appearing a page after that; and a section vaguely labeled "Notes."

Allan can read any part of this book at anytime, just say the word!

Suggestion 2011/03/31(Thu)19:38 No. 292377 ID: 3392ab
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Allan shuts the book and stands up, an audible creak coming from the table. Wiping some of the dust from his behind, he stashes the notebook in his pocket and walks over to the far wall.

The blue-and-gold door rests at the bottom of the wall. It has an arrow pattern pointing down towards the hole (not pressure plate) in front of it. The edges of the gate is covered in a thick layer of dust, yet most of the filth was recently wiped off.

A note is nailed above it. It reads "Sacrifice or Offer," whatever that means.

>>292377
Bleed into the hole. Not too much, but enough to be respectful. Read the notes.

should be in order. go to the first page of notes. maybe it tells you more about it? also not that part of the wall is perfectly smooth while the rest isn't. it's probably a secret door that opens if you put the right thing in the hole.

Before we do anything, check the preface. Then the notes.

>>292377
PISS IN THE HOLE.
No really, read the introduction.

Suggestion 2011/03/31(Thu)20:40 No. 292424 ID: 3392ab
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>>292378
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>>292382
>>292384
Allan reopens the book.

Preface
Domhain is a dungeon found in the dense Coillte forests... Well, if you're reading this, you no doubt know all that already. I'll skip the pleasantries and get right into the important stuff. Oh, also, this preface was written in 537. It doesn't matter how long it has been since then at the time you're reading this, I can guarantee you this dungeon hasn't been cleared. No, not even the first floor.

I've dived here multiple times before, each time having to retreat at similar places. Sometimes the people I recruit with me can't make it through the second floor, while others get lost in the ritual. You might be thinking "Why can't you just continue from where you left off?" and I don't really know. Each time I enter this dungeon everything is... Reset.

I'm not sure how it happens, but the monsters return, the room layouts change back to their original form, etc. Anything that was not part of the dungeon's original plan will disappear as well, save for what's in this room. It's frustrating, to say the least.

I don't know the exact times it resets, but it can happen while you're still in here. There is a Lamia on the second floor and, if you take too long on the fourth and attempt to escape, the blood will be gone, the traps will be reset and the three doors will all be shut. More importantly, her corpse will be as lively as ever.

I'm running out of room and I've already drawn the map on the next page, so I guess this is the end of the preface. I'll be keeping notes in the back of the book, though I can't guarantee their neatness. Keep your wits about you. Domhain is a strange place.

Good luck.

---

The book's unsigned. The current year is 559, so this preface was written 22 years ago. The author's vague about a few things which kinda confuses Allan, like "the ritual," and "the three doors will all be shut."

Allan skips ahead a few pages and starts reading the notes. It's a messy compilation of random scribblings about who knows what. Largely written on the second page is "KILL THE MAN IN THE BLUE HAT BEFORE HE KILLS YOU." You see, it's tips like these that everyone should know about!

There's a note in the bottom lefthand corner that reads "Offer her Venom, his Eyes, it's Earrings. (in order!)." Allan assumes that it's referring to the hole in the ground in front of him, so there's no need for any weird blood pacts to be made!

the man in the blue hat probably acts friendly to catch you off your guard THEN when you think he is nice he kills you. get a look at the map then go to the right. when we find all three offerings is when we probably come back here.

>>292424
Offer her blood anyways. Remember, this man FAILED.

>>292433
he didn't fail. he just never finished before he got too old. he is probably still alive. most likely putting anything else in the thing results in a trap springing.

Yep. Check the map.

If this room is stable consider bringing puzzle pieces up here, then letting the dungeon reset, and grabbing the puzzle pieces to quickly run through and solve the puzzles, giving you extra time to do new stuff.

goddamit. you guys are so dense.

drop a apple on the hole.

Well, at least you don't have to worry about losing the key to the boss room down a drain and having to give up on the whole dungeon.
Maybe a strategy would be to do the first couple of levels over and over until it becomes muscle memory?

>>292424
"Offer her venom..." I'm sure the door is gender neutral, but lets go ahead into the next room and hope we find some venom just in case whatever takes the offering is female.

>>292483
Pretty sure the venom in question is the lamia's.

>>292424
For some strange reason I think the bread may be important. It strikes me as odd that it looks so fresh and mold free when the room around it looks like it hasn't been touched in a while. I'm guessing that it may be what we need to offer to the box or perhaps we need to use it to lure one of the rats into the hole as the sacrifice.

>>292485
don't need to kill a snake to get it's venom.

>>292374
I am loving the little animations in this.

>>292424
Investigate door deeper into dungeon.

>>292424
Lure in one of the rats with the bread. Then cut off its head over the hole and toss in the corpse. Lets see what happens.

Also, it would appear that someone else used this room recently, since the bread is still fresh.

>>292518
We do not kill ratfriends.

>>292559
Yes we do.

We already know what the hole is for, guys. No need for potentially deadly experimentation.

Suggestion 2011/04/01(Fri)13:50 No. 292615 ID: 3392ab
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Allen flips to the next page. A rather crudely drawn map is scrawled up and down the page. Small diagrams surrounded by a square/circle seem to represent a room. The left hand page contains 5 floors, each with 2 or so rooms. The right hand page leads to something more... interesting? Probably confusing.

>>292594
>No need for potentially deadly experimentation.

Allan agrees with this guy! Allan doesn't want an injury before he even gets two rooms in!

>>292440
>>292462
>Dungeon mechanic exploitation plans

Allan was thinking the same thing. It seems like this room is going to be used as a main base/storage.

>>292518
>It would appear that someone else used this room recently, since the bread is still fresh.

With the recently wiped book/gate adding to this, Allan suddenly gets the feeling he isn't alone.

they would be another delver if they are. if that's ALL the pages in the book then may as well put it back down on the table so it doesn't get destroyed in a reset. grab the rats then go to the right.

>>292615

Welp, let's get this show on the road! Advance right!

>>292615
Let's see what the next room is like.

Well, the rats have had a light snack. Go ahead and leave one of the apples behind for them, too. It'll be easier to replace the apples than the bread.

The next room doesn't look like it has anything important, if I'm reading the map correctly, but let's take a peek inside. It would be rather foolish to walk into a pit trap or a pitch dark room without looking.

Suggestion 2011/04/01(Fri)15:38 No. 292680 ID: 3392ab
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>>292644
>>292626
>>292623
>If those are ALL the pages in the book then might as well put it back down on the table

There are still a few miscellaneous pages that might need to be referred back to, so Allan decides to hold onto the book for now. It's not like it's going to weigh him down, or anything!

Allan proceeds into the next room. It's similar to the last one, only marginally smaller. Otherwise, there's not a whole lot to see in here, much like the map suggested.

>>292680
Strange, what's that oddly-colored rock? If it's just a rock, I guess we can continue on.

>>292680
Put out the candle.

>>292680
Can you tell what the two whitish rocks in the middle of the room are? There is clearly a skeleton under the candle, but I'm not sure that the objects in the middle of the room are bone.

kick the weird bulging rock.

Suggestion 2011/04/01(Fri)16:41 No. 292723 ID: 3392ab
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Allan douses the flame, darkening the room.

Allan picks up the two white things. They're... petals. Flower petals. White ones. They smell nice, however Allan isn't much florist and can't tell what kind they are. Probably isn't important, but, still, Allan wonders what they're doing in a place like this.

The other gray things on the floor are, indeed, bones. They look decomposed, which goes against the notebook's preface now that Allan thinks about it. Unless they're just always there. A fairly large animal skull rests with the bones.

Suggestion 2011/04/01(Fri)16:41 No. 292724 ID: 3392ab
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A loud, rough cry comes from the next room over.

investigate cry!

Add petals to pockets.
Onward, to the next room!

How can we see what's in this room, anyways, with the light out?

>>292724
OH boy they're having an orgy!


..wait no thats...nevermind.

>>292741
Hahahaha, I read it as 'ORGY' as well.

I would either DRAW YOUR SWORD or somehow PREPARE YOUR SWORD TO BE DRAWN before investigating. Just in case something really nasty is on the other side.

Suggestion 2011/04/01(Fri)18:10 No. 292791 ID: 3392ab
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Allan throws the petals into his pockets and walks into the next room, his hand firmly around the hilt of his blade.

The room is large with a variety of things in it. There are a few barrels along the walls with some makeshift huts further in. Lanterns with candles in them hang down from the ceiling. In the middle of the room lay a man, slowly backing away with a large, brown ratman following close behind him.

The man on the floor turns his head back a bit as Allan enters. Coughing, he asks Allan for some assistance.

Lend him some. Slay that giant rat.

show the ratman your stabs

Unless you think you can take the ratman on your own, I would suggest dragging the guy into the last room. Ambushing the ratman from the doorway or at least using the cover will help your chances.

I'm not sure how good you are with that sword, though.

You show him who is KING RAAAT

>>292806
good tactic.

You notice a severed rat foot by the barrels with a blood trail leading in the direction the rat is coming from.
Realizing that the rat is defending another of it's kind or after vengeance you kill the wounded man yourself.
After all who needs the competition and you'd rather have the rat-man for a friend

>>292969
wait... shit, you're right. need to back off and see who is the aggressor. if the guy attacked first then of course the rat is gonna try to kill him.

...it's a dungeon. There are monsters in the dungeon which attack you. So you kill the monsters.

im gonna go for the longshot here

say "hi, why is everyone attacking each other?"

>>292982
is it a monster? it is wearing clothes and seems to be defending another of it's kind.

This is why you don't feed rats.

no, this is why you feed rats, because if you don't their big brother will come after you with a spear.

>>292791
Lend assistance and kill the rat creature.

take out your sword but only use it to block an attack and demand a time out and explanation.

Show no mercy! Kill it dead!

>>292791
>man in blue
>>292424

>>293110
>blue hat
This guy's headgear is brown.

Suggestion 2011/04/02(Sat)14:01 No. 293231 ID: 3392ab
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>>292792
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>Assist
Allan draws his blade from its sheath. He leaps forwards, raising it high above his head, and with one last jump he brings it down upon the ratman.

The ratman parries! It raises its spear up to meet with Allan's sword and pushes him back.

Suggestion 2011/04/02(Sat)14:01 No. 293232 ID: 3392ab
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Allan is pushed back, but keeps his cool. He sticks the landing, sliding back towards the other man. Staggering a bit, the injured man starts to get up.

The ratman's spear snaps in two from the previous blow! The ratman is stunned momentarily.

okay NOW ask what the hell is going on. but stay on your guard. against both the ratman and the other guy.

(We continuously are humbled by your animation skills)

Nah man, the rat guy's clearly a monster while the other human is clearly a bro, by virtue of species analysis. Clearly you ought disembowel the rat man while he's stunned from your previous attack.

Tell the injured man to ready his throwing arm.

Then attack the ratman from the right, so Injured Man can chuck some knives at the ratman.

oh so you are all speciest. just because he is a ratman he is automatically evil.

Hhhnnnggghhh! Animation... so... delicious...

look at its eyes, it is clearly evil. kill the evil rat monster and find out what happened later.

Shout... something at the ratman, on the off chance it can actually understand what you're saying. But I'm not expecting much.

>"okay, what is going on here?"

Keep in mind this other dude might not be a team player. Don't let yourself get stabbed in the back.

Ask the injured man what happened before you got here.

Stab!

Alright let's put this to bed.

Allan: Are ratmen like this ever NOT evil? Have you heard of monstrous races being peaceful?

Also if this winds up going into more combat, >>293235
I agree with a pincer attack. This guy might not be able to throw knives so just suggest a pincer attack and let him do whatever.

Suggestion 2011/04/02(Sat)14:48 No. 293249 ID: 3392ab
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>>293233
>>293240
>>293241
>>293242
The ratman turns around to search for the weapon end of his broken spear. Allen tries talking to it. It cocks its head around quickly and shrieks back at him, then continues to search for his weapon.

Allan helps the man to his feet and asks what started all this.

Coughing, the man replies, "Does it really matter? Are you honestly thinking of allying yourself with that mindless beast instead of helping me?"

KILL. IT.

>>293232
Press your advantage and the attack. Tell injured dude that you will slash high and he can stab low. You go from the right and he goes from the left.

The man has a point. He's human and you're human. That thing clearly isn't human. Furthermore, it's clearly disgusting (unless you're in to that sort of thing). Are you really going to turn your back on a fellow human in order to appease your secret rat fetish?

"well, it is wearing clothes so i highly doubt it's mindless. i mean, if you are a giant rat and a guy runs up and tries to stab you i think you would stab back."
the rat's spear is a rather useless weapon right now. and going after it means it is probably desperate.

Who cares if the monster has clothes or not? Help the one you can actually communicate with and kill the rat quickly, before it can rearm itself.

>>293249
Nah. Kill it.

fine, just make sure it doesn't know you killed it. try to make sure it thinks the other guy is the cause of it's death.

Suggestion 2011/04/02(Sat)17:12 No. 293316 ID: 3392ab
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Allan and the man set out to slay the ratman. The injured guy grabs one of his daggers and expertly throws it at the ratman's back. Allan rushes quickly after it, preparing to make follow up attack.

The ratman bends down to pick up his weapon, when...

Suggestion 2011/04/02(Sat)17:12 No. 293317 ID: 3392ab
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The dagger connects! It's lodged deep in the ratman's skin. The enemy let's out a sharp cry and arcs backward, screaming.

Suggestion 2011/04/02(Sat)17:13 No. 293319 ID: 3392ab
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The ratman flails about, reaching for the dagger still lodged firmly in his back. It squeals in torment and is blinded by pain.

So blinded, in fact, that it doesn't see Allan run up behind him.

Suggestion 2011/04/02(Sat)17:13 No. 293320 ID: 3392ab
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With an upward slash, Allan cuts the ratman's back, blood trailing on his sword. The ratman staggers, inhaling deeply, gasping for enough air to let out another cry.

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It gives up on its air-finding endeavor and slumps to the ground, shaking. Its eyes dart around frantically, searching for nothing in particular.

The room is dead silent.

VICTORY!

Collect necessary XP, and devote full attention to the injured man.

Ask how the other guy is doing, what the hell happened, &c. &c.

explain you wanted to knwo what happened becasue having to fight a giant rat every time you come here is gonna get annoying real fast. figure out how to get past without killing it and the journey will be a lot easier.

Well, if it WAS peaceful, you can take solace in the fact that it'll be back when the dungeon resets.

Look around for a second at the rest of the room.

I feel horrible now...

Well. Take the knife thing out and give it back to it's rightful owner, and then greet the boy.

don't give him back his knife. ask him again what was going on. now that the rat is gone he can't evade the question.

Suggestion 2011/04/02(Sat)19:16 No. 293375 ID: 3392ab
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Allan slides the knife out of the ratman's body. It squirms and wheezes as he does so. Then, Allan asks if the man's alright.

Wiping the blood from his cheek, the man shrugs. He tells Allan it's nothing serious, just a cut on his face and his leg. "Man, was I ever lucky that you came when you did," he laughs. "Otherwise, I'd definitely been a goner, I kid you not." He points to Allan's sword. "You're pretty good with that thing, y'know."

Allan asks what happened before he showed up. The man explains how he sneaked into the dungeon to explore and to see if he could clear it. He noticed the half of a loaf of bread at the entrance and figured that someone was already here. So, he headed on towards the next room. To his surprise, not even the third room had been cleared; two ratmen were still alive in there. The ratmen noticed him from their huts and came out with spears, talking gibberish. He drew his daggers and took an offensive stance, and they attacked.

He managed to maneuver around them easily and disabled one by lopping off its foot. That one was easy to take care of, he says, but then the second one struck him from behind.

...And that's when Allan walked in.

Allan nods in understading. The man reaches into his pocket to pull out a small bandage and starts patching up his cheek. "You here to clear the dungeon too?" He asks. Allan nods. "Then I guess we have similar goals. We'd better team up, yeah? With the two of us, this thing'll be a piece of case, even with my injured leg." He motions toward the dagger Allan's carrying. "though I'm gonna need that back, yeah?"

He doesn't strike me as one to share loot, but you never know, and there is a lot of dungeon left to go. Give him his weapon back but keep him at arm's length for now.

>>293375
Hand him the dagger back hilt-first.

...wait a second the ratman's still alive. Put it out of its misery.

This guy cannot be trusted. Align our selves to the Rats, kill the man and use his blood to revive the slain Ratmen.

You know Necromancy, right?

from what he says the rats were telling him to stay away and he got out his weapons so they attacked to keep him from attacking. and the little rats are coming back. the little rats may be their children. this guy seems to of not bothered reading the book.

hmmm... tell him to go on ahead, you want to check some stuff here. then when he leaves get near the rat and tell him how you didn't mean for this to happen but if he remembers this then you want to cut him a deal, you leave him alone and he leaves you alone and you both go on your merry way.

>>293380
>>293383
Don't do any of that.

This is what I think happened: They wanted to claim the dungeon as their lair, and came out with weapons to threaten him because he was 'trespassing' so he drew his and they attacked. THEY ATTACKED FIRST, WITH LETHAL FORCE. Fighting and killing them is justified, even if it's not nice.

Also the tiny rats being ratman kids is ridiculous. Ratmen do not work that way.

Return that dagger, and ask the fella his name.

(Edward, maybe? He looks like he could be an Edward. Or a Remy.)

>>293393

How do you know they attacked first? You a traitor to the rat people?

>>293375
Give back dagger and accept offer to team up. He can disable traps by walking into the or something.

>>293380
Who gives a fuck? Kill them all and let whatever diety holds reign here sort out the rest.

>>293453
because they aren't going to STAY dead. everything here will come back to life. so killing things is only a temporary solution.

>>293456
So? That means we kill it again, and then again, and a few more times until we're done here. Don't really see any sort of problem with that.

>>293457
what if we get wounded deeper in and the rat is back and attacks us but we can't fight well because of the wound? long term plans require allies everywhere. not with the first guy that asks.

>>293458
Then we adapt to the new circumstances. And the ratmen does not seem to be native to this place. The picture for the first floor monster does not match a ratman. They might just have killed what was living here and set up shop of their own. Now that they're dead the reset should bring back what was here originally.

And the reset is triggered when we exit the dungeon and then come back in. Whatever is in this room, if it's ratmen or something else, won't be ther when we're leaving. Because the reset is triggered when we exit this place.

But if new ratmen have wandered in, and we can't fight them, then I guess we would have to sneak past. Or lure them deeper in, slip away from them and then sneak past. Or trust our somewhat shifty looking ally to help a bit.

>>293459
uhhh... reread the book. the guy says he killed the lamia, got down to floor 4 and then on his way back up the lamia was alive again. the resets can happen any time.

>>293460
And before that he says that it resets every time he exits and enters. So the Lamia might be a special case.

Return the dagger hilt-first, and ask the man his name. We're already allied with him, so to speak, so it would be foolish to not accept his help.

Whether or not the ratmen were peaceful, they certainly aren't now. One is missing a foot and the other is dead. I highly doubt any new ones we meet will be friendly from this point on.

Once you've introduced yourselves, take a look around the room. With one foot missing, there must be a blood trail somewhere.

Suggestion 2011/04/03(Sun)19:11 No. 293665 ID: 3392ab
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Allan steps over and hands him back his weapon. "Thanks, man," he says, smiling. "I'm pretty useless without both, I kid you not." He finishes bandaging his cheek and wipes his daggers clean with the ratman's shirt.

Allan agrees that they should team up. The man smiles and nods, saying that it's for the best. "You got a name, man?" He asks. Allan tells the man his name and that he's a wandering dungeon diver. The man introduces himself as Remy Crump, a wandering 'treasure hunter' (Allan assumes that's just a fancy way of saying he's a petty thief).

"Well, it's a pleasure to meet you, man," Remy laughs. "Let's be sure to split the loot 50/50, alright? I mean, I'm not the stingy kind or anything, but I'll get pretty steamed up if you end up scammin' me here. I kid you not." Allan nods.

Where to now?

Ask if he read the map, knows that things reset and so on and so forth. Just make sure you two are on the same page here.

asks what he knows about this place and compare info.

>>293665
50/50 sounds fine, so long as he carries his weight. If we have to do most of the work that wouldn't be fair. Ask him what kind of skills he has.

Note: trusting a thief is a risky proposition... We should never get into a situation where he can stab us in the back and take everything. Also note that he already told us that he's a bit rubbish if he's only got one knife. We can use that to our advantage if he tries to turn against us.

Suggestion 2011/04/03(Sun)20:06 No. 293692 ID: 3392ab
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>>293673
>>293671
>Ask him what he knows
Remy says he doesn't know a whole lot. He knew it's location and what the local rumours were, but other He flipped through the book and said it was too wordy for his liking. He says that he understood the map pretty well, though.

Allan goes on to explain how the dungeon 'resets' every now and then at random. All of the rooms, monsters, etc. will all go back to how they originally were. That is, all of the rooms but the first one. Remy says he's a little confused-- how's that possible? Allan shrugs.

They go back to the map. According to it, this was the last room on the floor before a staircase.

>>293680
Allan asks about Remy's skills. Remy says that he's pretty good with his daggers, obviously. Throwing and slashing are his specialties, but blocking with such short blades can be fairly challenging. He also mentions that he's quick on his feet. "No one ever here's me comin'-- my steps are pin-drop silent, man. I kid you not."

ask him to go scout ahead with his sneaking and you will check out these barrels.
then when he is gone talk to the rat man, tell him it wasn't personal and you hope that he wont hold it against you if he remembers this after he revives.

>>293692
Behead the ratman- his eye moved- then drag him into the safe room.

When he touched you, he stole your gold. Kill Remy.

Kill him.

What inventory do we have, anyways?

Also, in regards to an earlier comment: It is entirely possible that Remy is part of the dungeon as well. Just food for thought.

First order of priority is checking this place. I'd like to know what's behind those barrels, and we need to wander off-screen to the right to follow the bloody footprints. I'm also curious as to what's up with the rats and the ratman - the rats certainly choose an unusual time to pay a visit.

Have Remy check behind the barrels, while you keep an eye on the ratfolks. The both of you can head to the right after that. There's not much sense mutilating the corpse, but I'm not keen on just letting it sit unobserved right now.

>>293700
why? i am pretty sure this room reseting would make a new ratman out of magic if we remove this one to the first room. my idea let's us try to salvage a possible free pass out of the rat-men. so we can pass through without combat.

>>293717
So that we can have a pile of ratman corpses? Maybe he won't reset? SCIENCE!?

Hey Allan, where'd you get your Black Blade of Blaackness?

Suggestion 2011/04/04(Mon)12:14 No. 293812 ID: 3392ab
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>>293701
Allan had no gold with him to begin with! He was hoping he'd earn some while in Domhain.

>>293712
Allan inspects the ratman. The two rats from the other room have gathered around it. It's still alive, just barely. It wheezes in and out between shallow squeaks to the other rats.

>>293700
>>293717
>>293718
Allan is confused! Is he finishing off the ratman or not?

>>293812
Yes he's finishing it off.

dammit, i am not opposed to finishing it off. just want to tell it that we didn't want to do this and we are sorry it came to this. in private. so send Remy on ahead so he doesn't get the idea you are soft and talk to the rat man.

>>293812
Yes, finish off the ratman so we can move on and stop standing around feeling bad about killing a hostile creature that may or may not have been intelligent. Also it would be showing mercy. It's just slowly dying now.

I really doubt the little rats are its kids. Could be pets though. In fact that's very likely.

You know, apologizing to a dead man is kind of pointless, going "sorry bro for the stabs" is kind of ridiculous.

Just end his misery and carry on.

Suggestion 2011/04/04(Mon)14:22 No. 293857 ID: 3392ab
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Allan stabs the ratman one last time. It tenses up, but then slowly calms down as the life fades from its eyes.

"Ah, was the thing still alive?" Remy says, looking over. Allan nods. "Well, that settles that, man."

>Rest of the map

Investigate the contents of the hut.

Or yurt.

Whatever it is.

Tell Remy to at least announce what he finds before stealing it.

yeah the rats are totes part of this place. hut would never of been able to be built to that size with those resets. inspect giant skull. perhaps something is inside it?

That's a really fucking big rat skull. Also approach the second ratman cautiously. That one could be alive still too.

Examine barrels.
Examine hut.
Examine second ratman corpse.
In that order.

I don't like the look of that skull. Most likely the ratman just crawled over there to die, but I don't trust it not to be a trap of some sort.

Suggestion 2011/04/04(Mon)19:40 No. 293957 ID: 3392ab
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>>293859
>>293898
Allan tells Remy that he doesn't mind him taking anything, he should just let Allan know first in case they need it. Remy laughs. "Yeah, yeah, sure thing, man. You can trust me, I kid you not."

Remy takes a look inside the barrels. One has water, the other is filled with various bough, presumably for the hut. Allan thinks that's kinda weird considering how the place resets regardless. Remy takes a sip of the water haphazardly. He says it tastes fine, if not a little woody due to its container.

Allan goes over to inspect the hut. It's not very large and looks fairly rickety, almost as if a stray gust of wind could take it down. Poking his head inside, he sees what he hesitates to call a bed and a small crate.

open crate.

Open up that crate!

>>293957
These ratmen may be cursed to live out their reseted days from all the way back when this whole reset thing started. Almost like Groundhog Day. I suppose it's the only explanation why they wouldn't set up their home in the first room, after a set amount of time they just return anyway.

Open crate, investigate hay bed for goodies too.

'Open crate, investigate bedding' sounds like a good idea.

>>293957
Open that crate and search the crap out of it.

One day.. we shall make penance for the death of the rat men...

>>294021
you mean when we catch an STD from a local whore after telling this story in the tavern? that's going to happen anyway.

Suggestion 2011/04/05(Tue)17:39 No. 294204 ID: 3392ab
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Allan lifts up the lid.

Looking inside, it appears the crate's bottom has been removed and it now just serves as a hiding place! The hole descends deep into the ground. It's hard to tell where it ends exactly, but Allan can see a small object at the bottom.

is it small or just far away? drop one an apple.

What's with those four panels on the sides of the shaft? It looks like it might close or something if you enter it, trapping you in there.

Do not just jump in, that would be dumb. Tap the odd panels with the non-sharp half of the broken spear.

Suggestion 2011/04/05(Tue)18:42 No. 294210 ID: 3392ab
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>>294206
Allan takes the broken spear from outside and nudges at the weird rectangles. Nothing happens. Allan wouldn't be able to fit in there, anyway! He's far too big.

>>294205
Allan is fairly sure it's just small. He drops and apple in, just in case. It takes less than a second to hit the bottom, so it can't be more than a metre and a half deep.

"What's up?" Remy asks, poking his head into the hut. "You find something, man?"

Let's hang onto the apples and use the broken spear. One end can tap the unusual panels inside the "box", and if that doesn't get a response, drop it inside. Let's see if there is a nasty trap in there, along with how far down it is.

>>294211
Or nevermind, as I am... how did I end up TWO MINUTES late?

Well, let Remy know what's down there, and see if he has any idea how to get it out.

use sword and pinch it between the flat of the blade and the wall. then drag it upward.

>>294210
Tell him there's a thing down there and you want to get it out without sticking your arm fully into what looks like a trap.

Why don't you cut off one of those hanging lanterns and lower it down to give you a better idea of what's down there?

Suggestion 2011/04/06(Wed)18:53 No. 294530 ID: 3392ab
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>>294212
>>294336
>>294235
Allan tells Remy that there's something shiny down a hole. Confused at the crate facade, he takes a look himself. Allan winces, expecting a trap as Remy throws his arm in to try and reach the red object. Thankfully, nothing happens-- Remy was nowhere near reaching it anyhow.

Allan asks if Remy can go get one of the lanterns from outside so they can get a better look at what's down there. Remy nods and comes back with one moments later, a decent sized rope attached to its end. Allan sends it down...

The bottom of the hole suddenly turns a brilliant orange as the objects are illuminated. The apple is obviously still down there, along with a small glass bottle filled with a red liquid (either that or the glass is red, Allan figures).

>>294530

GET YE FLASK!

We must fish it out of that hole somehow.

So, no hope of getting that without jumping down.

On the other hand we could just dump the barrel of water into it, causing the potion to float to the top.

>>294540

This is a fantastic idea. Do this!

Suggestion 2011/04/06(Wed)20:23 No. 294586 ID: 3392ab
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>>294540
>>294533
>>294563
>Fill it with water
Allan gets some help from Remy to roll the barrel filled with water into the hut. Remy cuts open a small hole on the side and they quickly shove it on top of the hole. The hole quickly fills with water with the two objects floating peacefully on the surface.

>>294586

Sweet deal! Collect the apple and examine the Strange Potion.

Yes, collect your apple and the mysterious red vial. Inspect the liquid when you bring it up, see if you can make heads or tails of it.

>>294586
brofist for excellent teamwork

Search the bedding for additional items. Plenty of people hide stuff under their mattress!

>>294675
This can include fleas, too.
Although I don't object to searching the mattress.

Suggestion 2011/04/07(Thu)17:36 No. 294825 ID: 3392ab
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>>294587
>>294589
Allan reclaims his apple, albeit horribly bruised at this point, and picks up the vial as well, closing the crate afterward. He examines the liquid in the bottle. It's red and, uh... see-through? Allan can't really make heads or tails of it. The case it's in makes it look like some kind of perfume, so Allan opens it up.

Suggestion 2011/04/07(Thu)17:36 No. 294826 ID: 3392ab
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He takes a whiff and-- Augh! It's absolutely rancid! Allan can barely handle its scent as it escapes from the bottle. He squeezes his nose in an attempt to stop the odour from reaching his nostrils, but to no avail. The rotten fruit-blended-together-with-decaying-meat-like smell causes his eyes to water, forcing him to close it. The smell lingers, so Allan decides to take a look through the bough bedding for anything of interest and a fresh pine scent.

Suggestion 2011/04/07(Thu)17:36 No. 294827 ID: 3392ab
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>>294675
>>294733
Allan picks up the whole bed and shakes it down.

>>294827
What's that what's that? Some sort of yellow bracelet?

a thing! also the bottle could be used like a stink bomb. splash it on an enemies face and they will freak out.

>>294826
A very handy scent bomb. Imagine if you had excellent smelling capabilities and someone lobbed that at you! Man, your tracking ability would be shot to hell.

>>294841
or a health potion. They're notoriously red and medicine will often taste bad, sting, or stink. In other words, applying medicine is often a horrible experience one way or another. Even chew tablets taste horrible.

Have you ever drank a health potion before Allan? Maybe remy knows what the hell it is. But, medicine or not, definitely a make-shift stink bomb if it being stinky is a side effect.

My experience in dungeon crawling says DRINK IT TO FIND OUT WHAT IT IS. But then again, you die a whole lot in stone soup.

>>294852
>>294852
> Stone Soup
Don't know why people are all up in that game recently. NetHack is still superior.

Speaking of, find a shop so we can price-identify it.

Suggestion 2011/04/07(Thu)19:52 No. 294891 ID: 3392ab
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>>294841
>>294843
Allan just hopes he isn't in range when he uses it.

>>294860
>Price identify it at a shop.
Allan has no intention of leaving yet! He's completed all his previous dungeons in one run, and this dungeon will not be the one to break his streak!

...Hopefully.

>>294851
Allan's had a few health potions in the past, but he was young and confused! He was peer-pressured into it, honest!

But, no, this isn't like any health potion Allan's ever seen. He supposes the pigment of the liquid is similar, but the smell? Eugh. Maybe it's just really potent, or something.

>>294852
>DRINK IT
Gack, just thinking about it makes Allan's skin crawl. Besides, if it's something helpful then it'd be a waste to use it now!

>>294836
Allan picks up the thing that fell out of the bed. It's not a bracelet at all, it's a slip of paper. A crudely drawn image of a man holding a staff is on it. There are musical notes beside him too. Flipping it over, Allan notices some writing.

'OFFER OR OFF HER'

...Whatever that means.

>>294891
Sing the notes.

it's the clue for the lamia, give her something or kill her, i can think of a few things to give~

blue haaat...

>>294891
"Offer her Venom, his eyes, her earrings" I'm guessing when the book refers to eyes, it's the blue man's eyes.

>>294891
The man in the blue hat. Gotta kill that guy quick, apparently.

Alright we're done in the hut, check out the other dead rat and the skull it's next to.

Oh wait, the red stuff might be the venom was talking about too. Remy is a thief-rogue type of guy, maybe he knows his way around poisons and can confirm the concoction to be a venom or not!

How much you guys wanna bet that Remy is a part of the dungeon and respawns every so often in the same situation in that same room?

>>294937
While I am sure the substance is quite toxic, I doubt it's any form of venom. Smelling strongly of rotten meat and apples would be enough to chase off most without venomous properities, unless it is supposed to attract flies.

>>294891
>>294929
How strange. I would think it's more likely in relation to the "her earrings" than the Lamia's venom. Not that I would be opposed to avoiding a potentially dangerous Lamia encounter, but just stating which is more likely.

It sounds like the red potion is the item to offer, as well. Perhaps it would be best to simply attempt an offer of the red potion for "her venom" and "her earrings", to see if either accepts? If we're get into a fight anyways, taking the time to ask shouldn't hurt.


Anyways, we want to check the ratman and skull outside the hut. And yes, pay attention as leaving the hut. I don't want to be ambushed this early in the game.

>>295048
the poem says 'her venom, his eyes, IT'S earrings'. not her earrings. wording is important.

>>295050
yeah I fucked that up. My bad.
Though "it's" means "it is" so like... the venom and eyes are earrings or something?

>>295052
no, "it's" in the possession sense. it owns earrings. so the earrings are it's. like "jackson's car" it doesn't mean "jackson is car"

>>295055
Learn to grammar. "It's" is a special case. It is a contraction for "it is." "Its" is possessive.

>>295072
i have never heard of that. and maybe the author hasn't ether.

>>295072
This guy's right, I just goofed when posting that.

...Twice, I guess. I must have not been thinking straight, but it should be "its," as in "the thing belonging to it."

my bad yo

Suggestion 2011/04/09(Sat)01:42 No. 295193 ID: e091f3
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>>294944
>>293712
>Remy is part of the dungeon
Allan supposes that it's possible, but there's no way to be sure. Unless he killed him.

...

...Allan decides to think about something else.

>>294937
>Ask Remy about the vial
Allan inquires about the red liquid. Remy snatches it out of Allan's hands, examining it. He opens it, then closes it just as fast, turning his head in disgust.

"Dunno," Remy says, handing it back to Allan. "Doubt it's a poison, though. But, with a smell like that, it could definitely be a substitute, I kid you not." Allan takes it back and stuffs it in his pocket.

>>295048
>>294931
>Examine the skull
It's huge! Outdoing him in both height and width, Allan perishes the thought of encountering this behemoth while it was still living. Leaning on it is a deceased ratman. It's got a stab wound in its chest and is missing a foot.

Poking his head inside the skull, Allan looks or anything of interest. Despite his efforts, however, there's nothing but a whole lot of bone.

according to the map downstairs is something involving apples. ask remy to take the lead with his sneaking, but to come back and tell you if he sees a monster so you can figure out a plan to take it down.

Next is apple room. Open that thar door.

Also I think the symbol for this room is a giant rat skull, suggesting the ratmen are part of the dungeon.

Onward! Open the door, and progress down the stairs. I think we're done here.

It might be a good idea for Remy to scout the next room, just to see if anything is ready to ambush us, but we don't need to stay more than a step or two behind.

Suggestion 2011/04/09(Sat)09:01 No. 295218 ID: e091f3
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>>295194
>>295195
>>295199
Onward, to the apple room!

...Or perhaps not. Instead, they're lead to a spiraling staircase. Remy scouts on ahead a little, looking for any sort of traps. However, the room is completely barren! There's practically nothing in here aside from the candle against the wall.

Suggestion 2011/04/09(Sat)09:01 No. 295219 ID: e091f3
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They creep down the stairwell, Remy in front to scout for dangers. At the bottom of the stairs is a room identical to the one they just came from, candle and all.

As they approach the bottom of the stairs a pair of voices is heard.

Kick that rock, it's been drawn for a reason.

listen and peek into the next room.

Suggestion 2011/04/09(Sat)09:57 No. 295225 ID: 66d965
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Stay awhile and listen.

Also, going after the rock when someone might notice the movement is not recommended. Determine what's going on in the next room first.

Suggestion 2011/04/09(Sat)10:08 No. 295227 ID: e091f3
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>>295221
>>295225
Remy and Allan poke their heads in to see what the commotion is about.

Two people are chatting in the next room. One is a short, blond woman dressed in thick robes. Strapped on her back is a leather quiver, and in her hand... A bouquet?

The other person is a large, armour-clad man. He's very well equipped; a large sword and shield, two matching shoulder plates and a helmet that protects (and conceals) all of his face.

They seem to be in some sort of predicament. Hand on her hip, the short woman sighs. "This is so weird, I swear this is how I did it before!"

don't get any closer, greet them from there and ask what the trouble is.

Flirt without a mouth

Pick up the rock, toss it onto the ground next to the woman, and have a 'love at first sight' sequence.

Make sure it's animated.

>>295230
what? no, it's obvious her and armor guy are together, and besides allan is after snake-tits.

Say, "Hello."

>>295227
(D-Demon's Souls?)

Introduce yourself with a simple, "Hail, fellows." If the heavily armored fellow has blue or red etherial eyes, prepare to run back up the stairs.

Ask how long they've been here.

It's kinda weird that we're running into people right after a non-cleared room.

Suggestion 2011/04/09(Sat)12:57 No. 295265 ID: e091f3
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>>295247
>>295257
>>295228
Allan makes their presence known with a simple greeting. The two strangers turn around in unison.

"Ohh, it looks like we have company," says the girl, smiling. The large man in the armour says nothing, but takes a defensive stance. Allan introduces himself and Remy does the same, trying to appear less threatening.

"Well it's a pleasure to meet you both," the woman says, nodding. "My name is Rose, and this is Kushal. He, uh, doesn't say much." She giggles and Kushal eases up, taking a more casual stance.

"What's a little lady like you doin' in a place like this?" Remy asks, sizing her up. "You could get hurt or something; this is a dangerous place, man, I kid you not."

"Hey!" Rose shouts. "Just who are you calling a 'little lady?' I'm probably older than you, and I can definitely carry my own weight!" She motions towards Kushal. "And if anything goes wrong, Kushal's got my back. That's what I hired him for!"

>>295257
Allan can't see anything glowing in Kushal's helmet-- in fact, he can't see anything at all! The eye-holes are extremely narrow.

>>295260
Allan asks how long they've been in Domhain for. He mentions that they just passed an uncleared room with a few ratmen so he finds it strange that they're already here.

"The ratmen?" Rose repeats. "Oh, no, they're harmless. We just had to move that giant skull away from the door, is all. But, uh, I dunno, we've been here for an hour or two, I think."

>>295228
Allan asks what the problem is. Rose explains that she's having a hard time with this room. She says she's done it thrice before, but this time around Rose doesn't get it at all!

ask to give it a try yourself. and do the puzzle like a boss. also ask about the lamia, does she attack instantly or give you a riddle or something?

CONSULT THE BOOK!

>>295270
>>295269

Yeah, offer to do try your hand at the puzzle and consult the book if it comes off as confusing. Also; considering this is her third time, Rose is probably more seasoned at this particular dungeon than anyone else. Pick her brain a bit about certain foes, confirm the book facts, stuff like that.

Complement the fellow adventures of their smooth breathing animation. It looks like they're here from outside the dungeon as well, and have been through this section before.

Mention that this is your first time here, so you're unfamiliar with the details of the rooms. They'll find out pretty quickly anyways, so you might as well be foward about it. Then ask: What is the normal solution, and what is wrong this time?

Yeah, ask what they did before and what is new now. Also ask how far they have made it into the dungeon.

Do you still have the book?

>LOOK PUZZLE

>>295265
The ratmen were harmless? Look at Remy accusingly.

Ask how it's different this time, and how it was solved before.

>>295265
Check what puzzle they're having a problem with and then consult the book. Don't bother looking accusingly at Remy for the whole ratmen deal. They're dead anyway.

Suggestion 2011/04/12(Tue)20:53 No. 296199 ID: 3392ab
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Rose explains the puzzle.

There are three apples - or, with the one's Allan's brought that are still in tact, five. Each of them differ in weight. Normally, people would find seeds when cutting open an apple, but in this case they'll find a key. Only in one, though! The rest have a sort of explosive device in the centre, so cutting into the wrong one could get... Messy.

Allan's bag suddenly feels heavier.

Suggestion 2011/04/12(Tue)20:53 No. 296200 ID: 3392ab
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He takes out his unbruised apples and examines them. They each have a number printed on them. Rose takes out one of her apples to show off as well.

"I'm not sure when they get there," Rose laughs, "But they've always found a way from my experiences!" She places her three apples on the ground and Allan does the same with his. They place them in numerical order: one, two, three, four, and then five.

Suggestion 2011/04/12(Tue)20:55 No. 296202 ID: 3392ab
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From the door comes a slip of paper. Allan picks it up and reads it aloud.

３ＲＤ　ＨＥＡＶＩＥＳＴ　ＨＡＳ　ＴＨＥ　ＫＥＹ

ＮＵＭＢＥＲ　２　ｉｓ　ｔｈｅ　ＦＯＵＲＴＨ　ＨＥＡＶＩＥＳＴ
ＮＵＭＢＥＲ　４　ｗｅｉｇｈｓ　ｌｅｓｓ　ｔｈａｎ　ＮＵＭＢＥＲ　３
ＮＵＭＢＥＲ　３　ｗｅｉｇｈｓ　ｍｏｒｅ　ｔｈａｎ　ＮＵＭＢＥＲ　２
ＮＵＭＢＥＲ　１　ｗｅｉｇｈｓ　ｌｅｓｓ　ｔｈａｎ　ＮＵＭＢＥＲ　５
ＮＵＭＢＥＲ　３　ｗｅｉｇｈｓ　ｌｅｓｓ　ｔｈａｎ　ＮＵＭＢＥＲ　１

"That's it?" Remy scoffs. "Seems pretty easy to me."

"Yeah?" Rose shrugs. "Well, then, you solve it!" Remy shys away, dispelling his false grandeur. Rose squats starts to draw something in the dirt. "The last guy I brought in here was a really math-whiz. A mage, too, if you'd believe it. He made all these fancy graphs and organized the data and whatnot..." She trails off and rubs out the diagram she was making in the dirt. "I didn't get it at all! Ha ha, I'm just not that bright, I suppose!"

Allan examines the sheet of paper again. He agrees with Remy, it's really quite simple...

>>296202
It's number 3.
Number 4 is the lightest. Number two is the second lightest. Number three is in the middle. Number 1 is second heaviest and number five is heaviest.

4
2
3
1
5

Check the rules, this sequence fits.

>>296202
3, but you could have solved it by throwing them at a wall from behind cover.
Speaking of which, carry them with you and throw them at puzzles you don't want to solve and/or monsters you don't want to fight.

Oh, you also could have just checked their weights yourself. Dumping them in the water and seeing how high they float, for example.

>>296202
Complain that this doesn't need graphs at all! Organized data maybe a little, but you just need a stupid list. It's just a dumb logic puzzle.

>>296204
Yep, that's right.

I agree, the answer is #3.

NUMBER 4 < NUMBER 3
NUMBER 2 < NUMBER 3
NUMBER 3 < NUMBER 1 < NUMBER 5
We know that both #1 and #5 are heavier than #3. #2 and #4 are both lighter. Thus, #3 is the third heaviest (along with the third lightest).

Since #2 is the fourth heaviest, we can also determine that #4 is the fifth heaviest (or lightest). #5 is the heaviest, #1 the second heaviest.

>>296206
Saving the extra apples for ammunition sounds like a good idea.

The water-in-bucket wouldn't have worked, though. You would have only determined two things: which ones were buoyant and which ones were not. There isn't an easy way to determine weight like that if the object is much denser or much less dense than water - they'd just sink or float the same.

>>296397
Not quite!
You see, buoyant objects displace an amount of water equal to their mass. That means that objects of similar volume will float higher or lower depending on how much they weigh. As such, you can determine how much each apple weighs by:
Seeing how high up the water line is on each one.
Seeing how much the water in the container rises for each one.
Filling a container to the brim and measuring how much overflow each causes.
And so on.

For objects of similar volume that don't float you can determine their relative masses by comparing what at what depth each one hits equilibrium, or the rate of descent, or etc...

With some string and a smooth pole, or a balanced fulcrum, you could also compare the apples against each other to determine their relative masses.

>>296418
Ah, good point. I did not realize a buoyant object displaced an amount of water equal to its weight! (Logically though, a sunken object displaces an amount of water equal to its volume, which is what happens.) You learn something new every day.

Then again, we are not working in a labrotory with exact scientific apparatuses. It would be rather hard to tell the minor differences in something as small as a bucket by eye. We could certainly do it with a measuring stick and something to mark off the height of the water, but I don't think we have any of those three object anyways.

Actually, what do we have on us?

I doubt we could find a bucket deep enough to test relevant equilibrium depths. That would need to be an apple of very specific density or a very tall bucket. I'm not too sure that rate of descent matters with density - it doesn't in displacing air during a fall.

Perhaps we are overthinking this, though, given that we already have the answer anyways. And are low on buckets. :p

>>296478
>I'm not too sure that rate of descent matters with density - it doesn't in displacing air during a fall.
Ah, but it does! It's simply less noticeable in air due to the low density of the medium. However you'll find that water, being very close to 1000 times denser, does a much better job of keeping terminal velocities low.

>>296397
>>296418
>>296478
>>296500
Stop fucking showing off that you manged to pay attention in school and either shut up or find a dis thread. None of these posts are novel suggestions.

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>>296208
Allan agrees! It's really just basic math. Some people have a hard time visualizing it in their head, but it's no problem at all for Allan.

>>296204
>Number 3
Allan's confident that the key's hidden in the third apple. He digs his thumbs into it, drawing sweetly scented juice from its interior. Allan can see Rose and Remy flinch as he rips it in half, exposing a palm-sized, teal-coloured stone coin. It looks like it could fit easily into the hole on the door.

>>296397
>Save apples for ammunition
Allan was thinking the same thing! If they can't eat them, then at least they can be used for something more violent.

>>296478
>>296418
All this technical mumbo-jumbo doesn't interest Allan at all! Not anymore, at least. The bucket method may have worked, but it would have taken so much longer! Good work on the initiative, though, Allan supposes.



Allan brings the coin to the door and inserts it. It twists and turns and the ground starts to shake as the door slowly ascends into the ceiling. The party enters the newly-opened room...

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The room is a cross between a nice change of scenery and an eyesore. A large, hastily done mural is scrawled up and down the far wall depicting the image of, uh... The lamia, probably? It's a little hard to tell, but the start more-or-less looks like a a blonde human while the other half looks rather snake-like. Allan's unsure of what the black markings in the middle are supposed to symbolize.

Aside from the colourful wall, the room is decorated with four similar looking barrels in the corner of the room.

Examine those barrels, and check how fresh the paint is.

Check out what those plant things are on the ground too. They look delicious.

ask Rose what she knows, she has been in here before, supposedly.

Ask prince ostrava of boletaria Kushal is he knows anything about Lamias. In fact, ask everyone, including yourself!

Those black lines could be weak points, or places where the venom sacs are which would make no sense because then delivery would be hella innefficient which would thus be the best place to strike to gather venom.

It looks like the green things on the floor are pine branches, used to paint the mural.

Go ahead and ask the others what they know about this room. According to the map in the book, this /should/ be the lamia room. Or it seems to be. There was also three doors on the map, yet four barrels - a clue?

I think we might be using that red potion soon.

>>296791
Seduce the Lamia mural. It's practice for when the Lamia shows up.

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>>296792
>Check the barrels
The barrels have small amounts of paint in them. One has yellow, another has blue, a third has black while the last has pink-coloured paint. The outsides of the barrels have some paint on them too, but Allan assumes that was by accident, though.

>How fresh is the paint?
Parts of it are still wet, like the blue on the tail and the three black shapes. The paints in the barrels haven't gone stale yet, either.

>>296793
>>296805
The things on the ground are indeed pine branches. They're covered in paint. Makeshift paintbrushes, perhaps?

>>296805
Allan asks Rose if she remembers anything in regards to this room. "Well, I don't remember the wall looking quite like this, last time... Maybe she redecorated?" She shrugs, unsure of what else to say. "There are a few doors in the next room, with some fancy mechanisms... I dunno, everyone would usually just tell me to wait here so I wouldn't get hurt."

While on the subject of what to expect, Allan asks Kushal if he knows anything about lamias. Kushal nods.

...

Allan asks what he knows about them. Kushal points to the mural on the wall. In a shallow tone, he says, "They're snakes." His voice echoes in his helmet. Allan gets the feeling he isn't going to get anything else out of him.

He turns to Remy, who shrugs. "Yee, that's what I was gonna say, I kid you not." Remy adds onto the thought saying that they have pointy teeth-- most of the time, at least. They also have some kinda poison-- most of the time, at least.

>>297036
Ask him if he's kidding about that last bit.

Welp, advance left and examine these mechanical devices.

how well can they be talked to?

we have to think she has been here fighting for god knows how long. she is either insane with bloodlust or paranoid with backstabbings.

>>297036
Well if she usually stays behind then... wait, how IS she carrying her own weight? She hasn't described her skills. If she's not any good in a fight then yeah she should stay behind while we do... whatever in the next room.

PEEK into the next room.

Take a barrel of black paint up to the top room. Also, find that painting of the blue hat man, cut out the eyes, and burn the rest.
Also, Remy is the curiosity shopkeeper?

...Also, check the black splotches for secret passages. >.>

What's painted on the inside of the door?

Indeed, check what is painted on the door you just entered through.

I will admit to being a bit stumped. Why paint a lamia on the wall? Check behind the barrels, as they were apparently used to store paint but could be blocking the view of something important.

Shall we try wiping the black paint off the walls with one of the pine brushes?

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>>297057
Allan starts to wonder the same thing. What's the point of having her tag along? Curiosity building, he asks if she can fight at all, or if she has any kind of special skill(s).

"Hey!" Rose shouts. "Don't even think about just leaving me back here while you manly men do everything! I said it before and I say it again: I can handle myself!"

"Then what's with the armour-guy?" Remy asks with a mocking tone.

Rose sighs. "Well, that's why I brought only Kushal this time; that way, I'd have to help out! And that's not gonna change now that you two've showed up."

Allan tries to pacify the situation, getting back to the question he original asked. Rose smirks a little, turning her body away. She counts quietly to herself before she jumps up. Her arm extends out fully and the rest of her hair flies out from her cloak. A bouquet of flowers shoots out from behind Rose as she makes accompanying sound effects, swiftly catching it as it falls to the ground. Kushal tenses and brings his hand to his blade as the flowers come out of nowhere.

"Tadaa!" She exclaims, giddy with excitement.

"And what's that supposed to do?" Remy says, unamused. "Unless you can summon up a bunch of knives with that you still ain't gonna be much help, little lady." Allan agrees that it wasn't much of a spectacle, and that it has little-to-no practical use, but he decides to keep his comments to himself.

"Oh, have a heart!" Rose sighs, fixing her hair. "It's just a simple trick." Kushal eases up, reassuming his casual position. "You should see my brother-- now there's a illusionist!"

For the third time, Allan asks if she knows how to fight. She nods, saying that the quiver on her back isn't just for show. Rose has a simple, lightweight crossbow and she's pretty good with it. Or so she says.

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>>297122
>>297246
Allan inspects the door he and the party just came through. Carved on it is an insignia not unlike the one Allan's got on his armour. Another snake-woman is crudely painted on the inside of the logo.

>Why paint a lamia on the wall?
Allan assumes that the mural is related to this series of rooms' inhabitant. It's just mild speculation, though.

>Inspect the black markings.
Allan grabs the similarly coloured pine brush and rubs it up and down, looking for some kind of secret passage way. He doesn't find anything! A bit of a disappointment, perhaps, but he wasn't really expecting things to be that easy anyway.

okay then, peek into the next room.

Oh, Rose~

Er uh ah anyways. Advance to the next room.

Also, aren't crossbows siege weapons? You'd thing for a traveling duo a regular longbow would be more useful.

>>297661
whyisthisgifsoappealing. Anyways, either she's a useless lump who come with a useful lump or she's also useful. Either way, you gain. Except for the splitting the treasure part... The small possibility that you'll get laid at the end of this and the probability that one or more of them will die while traversing this dungeon makes up for that.

>>297677

Think. I meant think.

Think for a traveling duo.

>>297677

Crossbows are more portable, can penetrate more, are easier to use, and are much more accurate, for the most part. Only downside is the reload.

>>297683
Much, MUCH easier to use.

Okay then, onwards.

If there's nothing behind those barrels then move on I guess.

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After checking behind the barrels and finding nothing, Allan motions the group to enter the next room. It's bigger than the last, resembling a hallway. There are three doors; one consisting of simple shades of brown with the other two being more of a strain on the eyes. At the far end of the room is some kind of contraption Allan can only assume is another puzzle.

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The apparatus is carved neatly into the wall, covered by a thin layer of glass. Three colours are at the very top of the contraption: yellow, red and blue. From these colours come a series of grooves twisting and turning between each other. The tubes eventually lead to three different rectangular symbols. Allan's not sure what exactly they mean.

Below the shapes are what appear to be the controls. There are three buttons: one that has a red and yellow dot, a second with a yellow and blue dot, and a last with an arrow pointing downwards carved onto it.

Rose comes next to Allan and explains a little more to him. "This one seemed easy, even for me! Two streams of paint come from behind their respective colour and pour down the tubes. From what I remember, the paint streams pause at each of the black lines. I can recall one of my previous groups counting each section as a 'one,' which made it easy to direct the paints! The white lines, on the other hand, signify a sort of cross-road for the paint trail. When they reach one, the paint can go any which-way you want-- aside from up, of course!

"Understand? Then, have at it! If you have any questions, or if what I said didn't make much sense, feel free to ask me anything!"

Remy pipes up. "Why's he get to do it? Seems easy enough for any of us to do, man."

"Well, would you like to try it?" Asks Rose with a hint of impatience. Remy mumbles something and turns away, showing his disinterest. Kushal seems indifferent to the whole matter-- or so Allan thinks. It's hard to tell, really, but Allan gets the feeling Kushal's not big on puzzles.