He seems uncomfy. Let him milk your pecs!

The beach episode (if there is one) alternatively, the pool

>>1105467
The Beach is a good idea! Maybe a nice picnic lunch on the beach. Go get some summer sun with your husband!

A Movie date sounds like a good idea, pick something both of you will like. I think it's for the best if you don't invite any friends this time.

>>1105467
+1 For the beach idea, Henry needs the relaxation and sightseeing.
Speaking of sights, any nude beaches in town?

A nice nature hike where the two of you will be alone together for hours with no distractions. No way to avoid a confrontation then.

Something outdoorsy like a beach or hiking trip followed by something chill, like a moovy.

>>1105464
is it just me to does it look like he is gritting his teeth like i can see teeth and the corner of his mouth is pronounced and angular?

tippler 2025/03/28(Fri)16:17 No. 1105528 ID: f1368b
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>Henry and Jess America location check
>Weed is legal
>Weather includes all four seasons, disqualifies most of California
>Not New York
>9 eligible states: Massachusetts selected randomly
Kai is only a modest road trip away, along with both the Appalachian Mountains and the beach. Unfortunately, the cost of living is pretty steep…

>Henry seems unhappy
Well, yes, that’s what lingering existential depression and a 12 hour shift on one’s feet will do to a wolf.

>Beach, don’t invite friends
Outdoors, relaxing, and a good excuse to wear something sexy. Jess plans to bring tuna sandwiches, homemade lemonade, and pasta salad in a little basket.

>Nude beach?
Jess does a little research on the state subreddit. It seems like nude beaches are less and less common in the age of cellphones and the commodification of public spaces. Too much trouble to drive to and investigate the few that remain.

tippler 2025/03/28(Fri)16:18 No. 1105529 ID: f1368b
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>Paper doll
Draw, describe, or post picture references of Jess’s beach outfit.

Will-O'-Liquid 2025/03/28(Fri)17:02 No. 1105530 ID: c5529d
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first idea: If you wanna do something with a bit of risk along with sexy, try bodypaint.
Challenge is to try not to get wet. So sadly no swimming, but you can do other beach activities

Will-O'-Liquid 2025/03/28(Fri)17:04 No. 1105531 ID: c5529d
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second idea: sling bikini.

>>1105530
I'll suspend my disbelief for the body paint (I'm curious to see how that would work on fox fur). But here's a thought, what if it was a bikini with the crotch and nips cut out and paint those over.

>>1105534
Now thats a fun idea

>>1105534
Thirding

Big sun hat, bikini top and bottoms (with extra standard swim trunks and loose oversized shirt you can take off for a strip tease bonus) and a hip wrap. Sarong? Whatever, it's coming off anyways.

Bind your chest with anime bandages. The rest is half-inch thick shorts.

tippler 2025/03/30(Sun)18:02 No. 1105619 ID: f1368b
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>Cut holes in the cheapest black bikini she owns and paint over her crotch and nips
>Sarong and one of Henry’s Hawaiian shirts on top
Sufficiently daring to get Jess’s blood pumping, with layers that can be used to maintain modesty for the children’s sake or for a strip tease for Henry’s.

Her husband dons a standard pair of swim shorts and his own floral shirt. With the food packed, they hop in the car and start the hour or so drive to the nearest beach. Jess tries to make smalltalk when she sees something interesting on the highway ads or in the occasional horse pastures, and to her relief Henry responds. Now that it’s the weekend he should have a bit more energy!

tippler 2025/03/30(Sun)18:02 No. 1105620 ID: f1368b
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The full heat of a Massachusetts summer only musters mid-seventies near the frigid waters of the Atlantic. Between her fur and the outfit, Jess thinks it’s perfect. A lot of other people seem to think so too, the beach is dotted with people having their own summer fun.

What does Jess do first?
A. Talk seriously
B. Eat suggestively
C. Strip seductively and go play in the water

B, start cooking this dog

B, if we wanna talk serious, we do it somewhere private, this is a time to relax and have fun, eat!

B, don't start with the water, work up to that.

C. Time to show off all that hard work you put into your body and to test if that body paint is waterproof.

B) Pretend to have a serious talk but the subject is about how you're going to have his baby by screwing him until his penis is on backwards

tippler 2025/04/01(Tue)18:09 No. 1105687 ID: f1368b
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>B
Her tuna sandwich is dripping with mayo, relish, and lemon juice. Jess can squeeze a few fishy drops onto her chest to imply far lewder pale liquids, hell it’ll probably happen by accident since she’s not eating at a table. Henry always liked when she put on a show for him while she ate.

“That drive made me hungry, let’s have lunch first.” she says brightly.

They pick a dry spot on the edge of where the waves have soaked the sand a dark brown and open the basket. Jess carefully unwraps their sandwiches and settles into the sun warmed spot, shirt unbuttoned and showing off her painted nipples. At this range Henry can definitely see them.

tippler 2025/04/01(Tue)18:09 No. 1105688 ID: f1368b
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Sure enough, the white bread is soaked through with savory sandwich juices and she feels some gush out with her first bite. All according to plan.

She makes lots of hums and moans of pleasure, because it also tastes pretty damn good thanks to a splash of hot sauce and fresh red onion. Henry’s ears twitch and he quickly lowers his own sandwich.

“You don’t have to do that for my benefit, I know you don’t like it.” he mutters, barely audible above the waves.

“Wuh?”

“I know you’re not into feeder stuff, you don’t have to pretend to get a rise out of me. I don’t want you to do something you’re not comfortable with!” Henry snaps.

Bro is missing the point, it's not the food it's the show. Ask him to clean you up, or maybe make a bigger mess on your tits.

>>1105688
First off, introspection time! Aren't you? You (had) a (somewhat) solid stance on identity.
Definitely want muscles and large shoulders, but never addressed fat weight; compromise (Musclegut) maybe? Or is it a complete and indeniable nono?

Thoughts aside, tell him you actually do enjoy that sandwich, and were hungry. But you were trying to make things more enjoyable for him but are sorry if that struck a nerve.
Does he want to talk about it, what's going on in there that's working him up so much?

*Deadpan*
Babe, I was eating so much I was starting to hate food. I'm totally fine with food play.

Now then, are you gonna keep overthinking things, or would you rather be seduced by your sexy fox sluttily slamming a sandwich?

>>1105688
Alright. Finish your meal and get some sun. Can we switch to Henry? We need to get in his head here.

Its true, He's going to have a hard time telling when you are being genuine now. All you can do is reassure him you're doing this because you want to. But he doesn't really have reason to trust your word, does he?

Tell him that you're not trying to pretend anything. You're just trying to cheer him up, and she knows this is something that makes him happy. You may not share the kink, but you're hungry, and you enjoy the sandwich you've prepared for yourself.

You understand why he's finding it hard to trust you, but you're going to get through that together if you want to make this work.

tippler 2025/04/03(Thu)19:35 No. 1105797 ID: f1368b
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Jess chews and swallows. “I mean, I was trying to get you excited because I like getting my husband hot and bothered, but I’m also eating a really good sandwich, dude. It’s not on the same level as the stuff we were doing before that made me upset.”

Henry glares at her. There’ve been an increasing number of these looks in the past few months and Jess isn’t sure she likes it anymore. “I don’t know if I trust you.”

“Okay. Do you wanna talk about it?” she offers.

“Yeah, actually. Would you or would you not be on T if you didn’t have to worry about keeping me happy?”

She doesn’t have to think long to answer this one. “On T, yeah. Muscles are cool.”

Henry points accusatorily like he’s caught her in some groundbreaking lie. “So therefore by staying with me you’re doing something you’re not comfortable with for my benefit! Your feminine body causes you some degree of dysphoria.”

tippler 2025/04/03(Thu)19:36 No. 1105798 ID: f1368b
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“Don’t overthink it Henry, it’s the same thing where I have the free will to make sacrifices for a greater reward. Eat sandwich messy to tease husband, don’t take T to stay with very nice and awesome husband.” Jess explains.

She sneaks another bite of the sandwich because she did a great job on it, honestly.

“Yuh can geh sedu’ed or yuh can tell muh ta stop ‘f yuh don like it.” she offers.

>Henry choice check (2/3 in favor of seduced because of previous HATE SEX choice): Failure
Henry hesitates, eyes darting to her messy chest. He frowns and shakes his head.

“I don’t like it.”

“Then I won’t do it.”

“Great.”

“Cool.”

Well that was an abysmal failure. Jess grabs a paper napkin to dab at her fur and proceeds to eat her sandwich normally. She’s not sure what to do next.

Time to hit the Earth's natural bath. Go for a dip in the ocean. Will your fur paint last in the water?

Maybe try to keep the conversation going before trying any more horny shenanigans.

Tell him that you aren't resentful of the fact that you aren't on testosterone for his sake. If it was a sticking point you really couldn't get past, then you would end things there and do it. It's a trade-off, like getting up a bit earlier to make a nice breakfast before work or paying more to have food delivered so that you don't have to drive and get it.

You understand why he doesn't trust you though, because for a long time you thought the same about your gender identity. You thought you'd be okay with presenting as a woman, and you were for a while, but over time it ended up eating at you more than you expected. And no, you can't promise that will never happen with testosterone. Maybe a year from now, you'll want it more than you could have ever expected.

You want to share a life with Henry though, and that's a deal-breaker for him. He's made a pretty strong commitment himself already, considering the missing digit. If you can promise anything, it's that you won't spring it on him, the way you did with your transition. If it starts to eat at you, you'll talk to him about it, and you'll try to find alternatives that'll soothe the desire.

You know, I wasn't like... Quietly Suffering back then, right? Like I wasn't pretending to be happy with you, I actually was- and am. If things aren't ideal then I just find a way to make them fun. It's just... It became so much at once that it became frustrating. Stressful. Un-fun. That's why I came clean when I did. I didn't want to pretend. I knew that would end up sucking for both of us. That said I don't mind compromising on some things... Even if I'm left with a couple holes in my soul, I'm confident in your ability to fill them.

Leave him with his thoughts, Tell him you’re going to sunbathe, if he wants to talk, you’ll listen, if he wants to silently rest and enjoy the sun with you, you’ll be happy with that too.
Maybe he can get a good look at your swimsuit this way and notice something off, heehee

>>1105812
This, is guess. Might as well get some sun.

Can I be real here with everyone for a second? This relationship is bound to end badly if this keeps up. I know Jess loves Henry, but is it really best for them if they are in this relationship trying to make it work if they are both miserable? Jess may be trying to be acting business as usual, but it’s clear Henry ain’t there. And after everything that’s been happening, he ain’t going to be okay for a while now. He misses the person he thought Jess was and is now bitter because he feels this “new” Jess stole them away from him. This will only make Jess feel bad and bound to hurt them even more in the future. So I know we are trying to rekindle something but dudes, at some point this ship may not be salvageable. Sorry for the rant, I am trying to think of what is best for both of them to be happy in the end.

tippler 2025/04/05(Sat)16:54 No. 1105907 ID: f1368b
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>Talk a little more
“Henry, I wasn’t pretending to be happy before–I really was happy to be with you and I still am. I don’t know how many times or how many ways I can tell you that to get you to believe me.” Jess pleads.

“The problem isn’t that I don’t believe you, Jess, the problem is I’m still keeping you from being how you want to be! I’m the barrier and I’m always going to be the barrier because of–because you’re a decent person and want me to be comfortable with your body.”

Henry’s gesticulations get a little wilder and Jess glances around to make sure no one’s paying too close attention to their argument. She doesn’t want some well-meaning lady to come by asking if she needs to get away from her big bad husband.

“It means I’m bad and that bothers me because I don’t like being bad.” Henry explains. “I try really hard to be good, actually, because something in who I am wants to be good. Does that even make sense?”

“Yes it does, but when you’re frustrated with yourself it makes it more stressful when you’re frustrated with me too.”

“Well yeah, I’m also mad that you basically tricked me into getting married.”

“I did lie to you.”

“And that’s more bad energy on top of this whole mess! Agh, I should just shut up.” Henry shuffles his legs so he’s facing slightly away from her and takes a big bite of the food.

tippler 2025/04/05(Sat)16:55 No. 1105908 ID: f1368b
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>Sunbathe
There’s a cool ocean breeze coming off the waves and Jess quickly finishes eating, takes off her shirt and sarong, and stretches out with her stomach on the dry sand to soak in the warmth of the sun. She closes her eyes and listens to Henry working on his sandwich. For the first time, she seriously wonders if it would be better if they got a divorce.

Kids are probably never going to happen at this point and Jess won’t be able to put up with Henry being grumpy and bitter forever, even if the sex is great. Divorce would be agony for both of them in the short run, but they’re young and could find new partners. It’s a natural continuation of the consequences of revealing her secret.

Or she could suck it up and keep trying with the fun date ideas since this is only the first attempt. It’s good that Henry is communicating with her, even if it doesn’t seem like they’re making progress.

A. Don’t give up!
B. This isn’t going to work

A. I don't think this relationship is unsalvageable yet. If Henry ever decides that it is, then sure, he's allowed to make that choice, but you still see potential in staying together.

Maybe ask if he'd want to go to couple's therapy, or if he'd rather keep working out his feelings as he's been doing. I think his natural impulse would be the latter, but I think you should make it clear that you'd prefer the former. Not because you think there's a problem with him feeling bad in response to everything, but because sooner or later he's going to need to finish processing his feelings so that he can feel good again, and so that y'all can figure out where this relationship is going. If he's up for it, it'd be a good sign that he's still open to trying to make this work.

Also, tell him you love him. He probably knows, but it never hurts to repeat the sentiment.

If his actions send you to the hospital, that's the point where you need to cut off.
Until then, though, you're still in a position of power and influence to salvage this relationship. What matters is that he continues to treat you like a person he wants to love, and you can rebuild your relationship from there. If he loses it and treats you like a slab of meat, there's no saving that.

Unless one of you is willing to give up a deeply held dream in order to satisfy the other, the marriage probably won't work. Henry would have to give up on being married to a feminine woman, or you'd have to give up on transitioning, and I don't think either of you are willing to do those things or ask the other to do those things. A marriage isn't about power or influence over the other, you cannot maintain a true relationship unless both partners are fully willing to maintain it. To insist otherwise is to place an unequal yoke upon your partner, and that point, are you even really partners anymore?

Also,
> It’s a natural continuation of the consequences of revealing her secret.

Yes, marriages formed under false pretenses don't tend to be healthy, lasting ones. This is supposed to be a lifelong partnership, not something built on a foundation of sand.

B) If two people want different things out of a relationship, its better to break it off now rather than drag it out over years. You thought you could fight through dysphoria, but it clearly got to you. That will only grow into resentment over time.

>>1105911
All this was triggered by a bout of edging where jess could not admit that it was to much for her beacuse of the competative spirit and henrys confidence has been sort of damaged by the shock collar thing.
Also been thinking if this continued i had basically planned for becca to be the surrogate or birthmother and jess gets to be dads with Henry

A)

Wanting different things from your partner is natural.
The question is how much different; is the difference way too much, and how much of it is insurmountable.
If Henry is internalizing the whole situation, and actually attempting to accept some of it, that's his choice of how to cope with the situation and he might come to term with it, or decide it is way too much and ask himself if breaking is unavoidable, so its at least worth a try, he's just saying he needs time.

You did lie, but then you told the truth, stop beating yourself over it being a natural continuation of anything, it really isn't, you tried to right a wrong and you did, having a relationship while continuing to hide behind a lie would've been much more hurtful in the long run for yourself and having a relation that started with a lie but then was rebuilt on trust is already a step in the right path.

Now Henry knows what this is about, everybody knows what they want, and believing it can or cannot work is completely up to both parties willingness to accept things for what they are and compromising, or deciding if things aren't worth the effort and giving up.

If you still ask yourself the question then you're unsure, and if you're unsure then you're not yet ready to give up, now you could always just enjoy the date the best you can, let Henry come to term with his own choices, eventually time will heal the wounds and he won't be grumpy forever (this is practically impossible) and ask him later if he thinks breaking up is something he'd want, because it's not like your entire marriage was build around your gender, there has been other factors and reasons that led you both to decide it was something you wanted.

This sort of decision isn't something you decide yourself without asking your partner, and maybe find some counseling somewhere.

A.
Henry is overthinking this so bad. Like. If you're happy then he's not preventing you from being... well you, right?And that kinda makes sense. Marriage is the sort of partnership where your identity gets wound up with someone else, after-all. That aside, if you're happy then what's the problem in the first place?

In fact. Tell him that.
If you're happy, then he's not doing anything wrong or bad to you. It doesn't need to be more complicated than that.

Alright heavy shit aside, you didn't go through the effort of preparing this outfit for nothin', right?
Flick that tail, wiggle that butt. He's close enough to notice if his eyes land in the right spot.

Yeah the mood's weird now, but goddamnit maybe this date can be salvaged if you can short-circuit his brain and drag his mind back to the present instead of... Wherever the fuck it is right now.

A

I recommend against repeated attempts at seduction. Henry has made his position clear, and he's not in a mood to be tempted. If you keep trying, you're showing disrespect for his feelings and boundaries.

He's a big old softie! He's only mean to you when he thinks you'll like it, or maybe when there's no other way to get through to you. You gotta show that you get the message. The date was supposed to be fun, but it's also a break from routine; a new venue might be a good opportunity to talk things over from a fresh perspective. If you can find a stretch of beach to walk along that's private enough, or a deserted corner near an ice cream stand, maybe try broaching some of the big topics.

The two big ones he just cited are 1) that he wants you to be happy, and he doesn't want to stand in the way of your happiness, and 2) he feels like he can't trust you. This is a thorny combo: if he feels like he can't trust you, then he won't trust that you're really satisfied when you say you are. You have to tell it to him in a way he'll believe, and that might be hard for you. You've been telling him that you're happy enough, and that you see it as a worthwhile compromise to forego some things that would be nice to have in your life to have him, but that hasn't worked; it's not what he's looking for. He's a softy, he's sensitive, and he loves you--he doesn't want you to have to compromise, and every time you tell him he's worth a few sacrifices is a reminder that because he's here with you, you're not the person you wish you were. Your psycopathy might make it difficult to understand, but Henry doesn't want to negotiate or make a deal with you--he wants desperately to be able to help you live the life you want to live, and he's frightened and hurt at the idea that he might not fit into that life.

You need to feel out new boundaries. Ask him how he feels about the situation, and just listen. Have you talked much about what your transition means for you(pl) as a couple? I get the sense that it's been happening mostly on your own initiative, and he's been on the outside looking in. Talk about your plans and wishes, and ask how he feels about them. Don't try to make offers to him right now, he's not looking for concessions; and don't try to discount his concerns, he wants to be heard and respected. And if you can think up any broad romantic gesture, doing something that will remind him of your first date, or when your proposal happened, or some event that made you two decide you were right for each other, lean into it. That's the sort of thing that will help him understand that you really do value your relationship, and want it to continue. Treating your relationship as an exercise in haggling will not speak to his romantic heart.