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15952 No. 15952 ID: 197650

If tgchan were a knight, what would it's choice of equipment be?

The rules are that you have access to pretty much every medieval weapon, excluding foreign weapons of that day (No japanese or chineese weapons, for example), and no things like gunpowder weapons, or un-knightly weapons like a crossbow.

Please post a choice of armor, helmet, degree of protection and choice of weapon.
If you choose a shield, please include what kind of shield in terms of weight, shape, amount of iron/steel and where these would go, etc.
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No. 15954 ID: f95872

>armor
>degree of protection
We are a knight. We have full plate over chain over cotton. And so does our horse.
>choice of weapon
A variety, of course. We need at the very least a sword and a lance. As well as a shield.
>helmet
...It'd be cool if it had wings or horns or both.
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No. 15955 ID: 2fa60a

>armor
PEASANTS.
>hemlet
PEASANTS.
>protective posture
PEASANTS.
>wepon
PEASANTS.
>shield
PEASANT, PIKE, 200, IN SQUARE AROUND KNIGHT.
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No. 15956 ID: ad2a2f

>>325755
COVER YOURSELF IN PEASANTS
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No. 15958 ID: 4c09fe

Well now I've been playing Mount & Blade recently so...

I would take an awl pike, a spiked mace and a dagger. For the shield I would take a longer V/U shaped shield for that extra leg protection that is fully useable on horseback, but not too small for infantry or siege use.

For armor several layers of chainmail, possibly a chain coat with a steel breastplate and plate helmet with chain neck protection. Plate greaves to cover the front and outside of the legs. Steel plated leather gauntlets.

Horse gets to be clad in chain and a bit of plate too.
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No. 15959 ID: c71597

>>325752
Depends on the timeframe I guess. If we can go high medieval then I would suggest a full suit of finest made Italian plate armour, helmet comes along with that. Shield, we won't need one with that armour.

Weapons, naturally a lance, a longsword as well possibly something like the talhoffer style for extra stabbity goodness, a hefty dagger to use if we get unhorsed and pushed into the grappling of melee and of course a warhammer, not as long as a lucrene one, but similar in style that can be used from horseback.

With this gear we would be the lords of the battlefield, if it wasn't for those damn cocky swiss pikemen. But just hit those fucks in the flanks and they will crumble as any peasant will when faced with proper knights. And the armour would protect against most melee and range attacks. Over range longbow and crossbow arrows will just skid off our sloped armour, it's pretty much impervious to cutting, stabbing only works at the joints or the small holes for vision. Warhammers and warpicks along with lances getting in a good hit would pretty much be the only thing to worry about in melee. That and getting unhorsed in a mass of unwashed peasants with daggers.
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No. 15963 ID: 197650
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15963

>>325759
I'm assuming you mean something like this?

So what helmet to go with?

So far I'm writing down
-full plate armor
-lance
-armored horse (unspecified degree of protection)
-longsword
-U or V shaped shield
-dagger
-possibly a hammer
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No. 15964 ID: c71597
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15964

>>325763
More along the lines of this.
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No. 15965 ID: c71597
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15965

>>325763
Or something like this.
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No. 15966 ID: c71597
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15966

>>325763
And something like this for the horse.
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No. 15967 ID: ad2a2f

>>325764
>>325765
>>325766
Those look great, but at the period they were developed gunpowder weapons began to make their way into everyday warfare en masse.

In the quest, will we face the wall of pikes, halberds and early arquebuses of professional mercenaries or still the drafted rag-tag rabble of the medieval periods that called itself infantry?

In case of the former, a good, expensive pair of pistols would augment our offensive capabilities.
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No. 15968 ID: c71597

>>325767
Well if we want something a little earlier then this http://mysite.verizon.net/tulkaz/1430.html set of english plate should work out quite fine.
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No. 15978 ID: c71597

>>325777
These things are very much mobile. You can do alot of acrobatics in one of those if you have the training for it, which you will have if you're a knight. Since a knight will have been training in armour since they were about 11 years old.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm11yAXeegg there you can see some of the stuff you can do in a milanese plate armour. There are also excerscise texts about what acrobatic stuff you can do in full armour. They include backflips and cartwheels.
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No. 15980 ID: 197650
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15980

This is about a single knight running about, even if you were to engage a bloody army, there wouldn't be just you, unless you want to end the quest very very quickly.

Armor is always a matter of mobility vs protection.
A horse helps a lot to get around though.
Gunpowder weapons aren't around yet in this setting.
Please also concider that a knight has to be inspiring, and therefor look pretty, I appriciate you all looking up and posting the best armors you can find, but sometimes you might want mobility, or to look damn good while youre ordering filthy peasants around. :3
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No. 15981 ID: 197650

>>325778
With mobility I meant more than flexibility.
The weight will still make you travel slower, and although it shouldn't be very restrictive in combat, it will still be impracticle in other situations.
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No. 15982 ID: 0dd6c2

>>325778
In contrast to mail shirts, plate armour is also surprisingly comfortable to wear.

Both mail and plate can be up to 60+ lbs, but while the most weight of mail armour lies on the wearer's shoulders (hanging down to his feet), the different parts of plate armour are attached to the forearms, legs etc.

So with plate armour, the user will have better protection and won't exhaust as fast.
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No. 15983 ID: c71597

>>325781
You don't have to wear all of it all the time. A full set is hot as fucking hell, and it doesn't have a very good ventilation. The breastplate along with the thigh protectors and a helmet doesn't really weigh alot more than a military backpack would and it should give enough protection to handle most things.

As said, a knight is going to have trained in wearing these things since they were kids. They will have been well feed and have had quite a high protein diet. They will come from a family more or less breed for being able to be knights. They will be very much used to the weight and they will have a horse that is just as used to the weight and has been breed specifically for being able to have a knight on its back. It's not going to slow down a trained knight very much unless he has to go through alot of mud.

By the way would we get a squire? Being a knight isn't really practical unless you have one of those around.
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No. 15984 ID: 197650

>>325783
You will be provided with one, however you might want to concider some equipment to give him.
Now remember that this squire needs to clearly be below you, no full plate kits for him.
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No. 15985 ID: 0dd6c2

>>325784
Awesome. :3

Let's see how far we can push you with our entourage:

An older squire (~14-16 years) near the end of his education (so he will have picked up some fighting skills along with court manners and minnesong).

A young knave (~12 years), who will mostly carry our lance/shield/heraldy.

One or two sumpter horses and a servant to look after them? (Ha, I know this is pushing it).


Three equipment suggestions for the squire:

Standard: Like a knight, but less heavy.
A warhorse without armor.
A sword.
A shield.
A spear.
Long mail shirt.

Support: Useless alone, but shines alongside us and protects our back. Also escorts our prisoners from the front.
A sturdy horse.
A sword.
A mace or other blunt weapon.
A large shield.
Mail shirt with (cheap) partial plate.

Exotic: Uncommonly light equipment, but the variety may help.
Unarmored, fast horse.
A sword.
Javelins.
Pickaxe.
Dagger.
Small shield.
Leather jerkin.
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No. 15989 ID: f95872

>>325785
>A young knave (~12 years), who will mostly carry our lance/shield/heraldy.
I believe you mean a young page.
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No. 15991 ID: 0dd6c2

>>325789
Page is the correct term. My thanks, dear sire.
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No. 16029 ID: 197650

Any suggestions on what sort of banner, color scheme or such?
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No. 16032 ID: 242766
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16032

>>325829
Always leave your castle in style.
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No. 16043 ID: 197650

>>325832
Something that's a bit easier to draw?
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No. 16046 ID: 242766

>>325843
Heh, it was meant as an inspiration. The thing is not really medieval anyways, more like early 19th century...

Well, early medieval age used fairly simple heraldry, a halfed shield with two different colours etc. (for the lesser nobles anyway)

Later, the symbols got more complicated. Depending on when your quest will take place and what social status your protagonist will have, you can try different stuff.

An animal or animal head is of course the perfect stereotype. Add some stripes or a checkerboard as background and off you go.

As for your quest's knight, I would suggest something easily recognisable and easy to draw. Let's say a tower (like the ones from chess) with easy geometry so it doesn't steal your time.
Left half black on white, right half white on black. Or top/bottom or something like that.
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No. 16052 ID: c71597
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16052

>>325829
Time for some heraldry then. Fairly simple ones even.
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No. 16053 ID: c71597
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16053

One more coming after this.
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No. 16054 ID: c71597
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16054

And there is another one. One more coming as soon as I find it.
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No. 16055 ID: c71597
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16055

And here we have the last one. It's a pretty simple one. Belongs to a high nobility family from Denmark and Germany though.
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No. 16064 ID: 242766
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16064

A bunch of others.
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