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8101 No. 8101 ID: 35cea2

http://www.springhole.net/quizzes/marysue.htm

How about we screen the /quest/ characters for Mary-Sueness. I doubt that the scores will be very high though, most of the characters seem pretty well thought out and believable to me.

Worth a shot though eh?

Simon: 6
Io: 11
Slater: 6
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No. 8102 ID: 632862

Looks like this quiz is meant for authors, not readers. Oh well, guess I can't mess around with it. I would like to note (to prevent derps) that the quiz is not entirely straightforward. Read the instructions carefully and fully, everyone!
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No. 8105 ID: 8e18cd

Sul has 14
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No. 8108 ID: 4e9b58

Asali: 5
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No. 8109 ID: 34470e

I Tried to do Mudy and I got 33.
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No. 8110 ID: 131526

Damn, I got a 0 for Flarey.

Amadooubs got a 90! Doobies truly are superior!
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No. 8111 ID: 8ce2bf

>>317910
Is Amadoobus based off of you?
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No. 8112 ID: bbae40

Anton has 7
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No. 8113 ID: 9d07d9

I can't say if Weaver and Reaver find their characters attractive or something like that, but I'd assume not.

Muschio: 9
Ridder: 10

Perhaps I'm being generous.
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No. 8115 ID: 131526

>>317911
I could only wish.
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No. 8117 ID: b8a3d1

Muschio:
>Does your character weigh so little that he/she looks or should be anorexic, but isn't? [He's pretty damn thin, moreso since recovering]
>Clothing chosen because it makes your character look super sexy and/or badass? [Technically the "conductor's coat" was chosen to go with his haircut to make him look more like Beethoven but I think Beethoven looks pretty badass]
>Clothing that is realistically impractical or improper for the character's situation, but looks cool? [With all the adventuring he does it doesn't seem as practical as say leather slacks, satchel, etc.]
>Inability to form a solid intimate relationship - so he/she has an excuse to sleep with as many people as you want. [Sort of presented as a weakness but hey let's not kid ourselves he sleeps around]
>Is your character nobility, closely related to a noble, or at least a rough equivalent? (President, governor, etc.) [This one's straightforward]
>Was your character orphaned, abandoned, kicked out, or at least raised by a family/person that was not his/her own family? [He wasn't a child, mid-teens at the time, but this is still accurate]
>Raised him/herself? [Again, from teens, but nonetheless]
>The very last or only survivor of anything? [Royal Family]
>Would anyone die for your character? (Unless, of course, said character would pretty much die for any casual friend/acquaintance.) [Arguable]
MODIFIERS:
>Do you ever poke fun at your character's faults/weaknesses and/or use them as plot devices? [NO I'M SO GOOD AT THIS]
>Has your character ever been honestly selfish, petty, lazy, shallow, or pointlessly cruel? [Constantly]
>Has your character ever run away from anything simply because he/she was a coward? [Arguable]
>Has your character ever ignored wrong-doings against him/herself and/or others because he/she simply didn't want to get into trouble? [Arguably his whole past]

Total: 14
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No. 8124 ID: 51d0f5

>Does your character have a particularly piercing (EG, "can stare straight into your soul"), haunting, captivating, or dazzling gaze?
Shadran: 14

>Does your character possess unusual healing powers?
Penji: 16

>Has your character ever been honestly selfish, petty, lazy, shallow, or pointlessly cruel?
Goshen: -1
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No. 8125 ID: 01b82f

gosh I want to start a quest so I can take this
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No. 8126 ID: 4ce1b0

Nezu: 17
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No. 8132 ID: 4bad03

Player (at the predicted expected end of his career): 26

Maybe I'll (won't) put a full breakdown in the discussion thread. Spoilers and all.
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No. 8138 ID: 96dac0

Mordre: 49

To be fair though, I don't think it's intended to really refer to a powerful golem.

Just in case anyone cares, an accounting of what I checked:
P1:1e,1g,1i,1l,2,4,13b,17,20,21,22,24,24a,49a,55,55a,56,58,63,73,73b,78d,
P2:3b,8,8a
P3:skipped
P4:none selected
P5:2,15

Also,
>Does your character frequently carry knives, daggers, or other little sharp pointy objects concealed within his/her clothing for no other reason than that they might be come in handy?
is stupid. Like 70% of all guys everywhere do that.

>If your character lost her virginity unwillingly, does she find a way to restore it?
I am sure there are some among you better versed in suism than myself who can, perhaps, answer this question: What the fuck?
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No. 8139 ID: 488063

>>317938
>What the fuck?
I allows the romantic indulgence of 'giving the most precious gift' while still allowing wangst over rape.
A way to have their cake and have it eaten, too.
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No. 8144 ID: 059c31

>>317939
I still don't understand how that is even possible? I mean I suppose biologically, but short of a mind wipe... and even then.
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No. 8146 ID: bd57bb

>>317944
the laws of nature don't apply to marysue.
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No. 8148 ID: c0f3bf

Rudy Mann: one hundred and twenty-one
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No. 8149 ID: 488063

>>317944
Surgery.
Although there was this funny old thing the Aztecs did with an astringent and a hummingbird egg...
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No. 8150 ID: 754774

Since my tablet hating the program I draw my quests in is no reason to stop coming here altogether.

Maria: 12
Tom: 6

Hey, I'm getting better at this whole character development thing!
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No. 8154 ID: cc8e07

Ermenguarde Frida: 9

(S)he is dearly missed.
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No. 8157 ID: 4ce1b0

Tura: 5
Nezu: 16

I need more ridiculous character traits, I guess.
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No. 8159 ID: 5696d4

Sanya: 3

Holy CARP.
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No. 8166 ID: bde1b8

Beardbeard Godslayer: 19
Coralina Madison: 16
Tyler Avinoch: -2

...Yeah that looks about right.
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No. 8170 ID: 34470e

Pete from Panzermench got a 9
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No. 8171 ID: c0f3bf

Bane got 18, Alice got 9.
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No. 8174 ID: c0f3bf

Jason is 6, the baldness is probably the reason.

Cid is 9.
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No. 8194 ID: 9a65fd

I wonder what 58 would get?
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No. 8195 ID: 31fa25

Steve got a 14!
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No. 8229 ID: 84297a
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8229

>Conversely, do you go to great lengths describing how your character is not gorgeous?
Yes, considering it's an ELDRITCH HORROR.

>Does your character have any of the following?
# Unusual feature of any other kind? (Particularly unusual/exotic birthmark, tattoo, etc.)
Yes, it's an Eldritch Horror.

>Does your character have the ability to shapeshift?
Yes, because-why bother?

>Is your character honestly ugly, and stays ugly throughout the entire story?
Yes.

>If your character is a non-human, does he/she react in very non-human ways or in ways more appropriate to his/her species?
Yes.
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No. 10016 ID: c16184

Ridder: 26

>22-29
>Some definite Sue-like tendancies here. A little polishing might be in order to put original fiction and RPG characters back into the balance, especially if Kirking is involved. Fanfiction characters should probably have some work done.
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No. 10119 ID: c0f3bf

Ramborghini has 16. 15 if he counts as a 'vampire'.
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No. 10124 ID: abb30a

Narus: 1
Anciu: 1
Dessen: 33
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No. 10143 ID: f98e0b

Oren's an 8
Nessie's 7
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No. 10144 ID: c07328

I don't have a quest so I tested the characters from my story idea!

> Taken from a character from another fandom that you like? (assumed this also meant story)
Hazel: 6

> Does your character have telepathic and/or telekinetic (Force-like) abilities in a world where this is unusual?
> Do these powers allow your character to 'see' or just 'know things' without actually being there, allowing him or her to save the day?
> Is your character out of shape, and stays out of shape for the entire story? (Not 'oh, man, I just don't think I can survive this triathlon,' but honestly, hinderingly wimpy?)
> Has your character ever run away from anything simply because he/she was a coward?
> Has your character ever ignored wrong-doings against him/herself and/or others because he/she simply didn't want to get into trouble?
Seven: 5

> Taken from a character from another fandom that you like? (assumed this included games)
> Has your character been in a lot of physical fights and/or battles, but doesn't have many noticable scars to show for it?
> Does your character frequently carry knives, daggers, or other little sharp pointy objects concealed within his/her clothing for no other reason than that they might be come in handy?
> Has your character ever been honestly selfish, petty, lazy, shallow, or pointlessly cruel?
Francis: 8

> Not counting his or her first language, how many languages does your character fluently speak? Click one box for every language: (1)
> Has your character ever been honestly selfish, petty, lazy, shallow, or pointlessly cruel?
Hunter: 2


That Guy?: 0
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No. 23259 ID: 9b6c31
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23259

Tory
Sues:
>Is your character unusually accomplished for his/her age, time period, place, occupation, and/or social status?
>Does your character fly in a typically groundbound universe?
>Does your character posess power that can take out entire cities/legions of soldiers/general all-around-evil? ( He did bomb a city )
>1. Was your character orphaned, abandoned, kicked out, or at least raised by a family/person that was not his/her own family?
>Has your character otherwise lost a lover?

Desues:
>Do you ever poke fun at your character's faults/weaknesses and/or use them as plot devices?
>Has your character ever been honestly selfish, petty, lazy, shallow, or pointlessly cruel?
>Is your character out of shape, and stays out of shape for the entire story? (Not 'oh, man, I just don't think I can survive this triathlon,' but honestly, hinderingly wimpy?)
>Has your character ever been in a situation that he/she had no way of overcoming on his/her own? If he/she eventually found a way of overcoming the problem, was it extremely difficult and/or took a really long time?
>Does your character ever admit to being wrong, even if he/she doesn't really mean it?
>Do you view your characters more like tools than friends/children?

Score: 3
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No. 23261 ID: f5e6a3

Tiak got a freaking 0

So. Boring.

Only marked the:

>Does your character frequently carry knives, daggers, or other little sharp pointy objects concealed within his/her clothing for no other reason than that they might be come in handy?
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No. 23262 ID: d677cc

Yeah this quiz is intended to hit on several common points in some genre of fiction that doesn't really seem to have an overlap with /quest/ stuff.

Ruz came up with about a ten, although half of the questions are almost completely irrelevant.
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No. 23263 ID: 6547ec

Sekani got a 13.

ALSO THEY MADE ME BUMP THIS THREAD I'M SORRY
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No. 23265 ID: 97cb33

>>333059
>Has your character otherwise lost a lover?

wait what?
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No. 23275 ID: 4953e3

>>333065
I think there is a lot to Tory we do not know!

Also, since I have so many characters I might as well do some more.

LeVerne: 15
>Has your character been in a lot of physical fights and/or battles, but doesn't have many noticable scars to show for it?
Does this count? He is a robot, he gets fixed. I suppose it counts.

Toadstool: 20
>Does your character save the day way more often than other main characters?
The other main character is his teenage daughter... so yes, he does.

A lot of Toadstool's points came from being the only competent character in the quest. Also killing Satan.
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No. 23281 ID: 4531bc

Relys got an 11, probably because the story isn't far enough along for him to have any mary-sue-esque quirks yet.
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No. 23309 ID: 383006

Karen is a 36(!)

Lahamu is an 8

I sort of expected that to be the opposite.
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No. 23329 ID: acd8ac

Zariene: 13
Fine I guess.

Asgeria: 19
;-; She's just trying to be a good person.

Kanes: 9
Quite low... Scientists aren't on the menu I guess.

Pheriel: 4
Seriously low for a magic wielding cat-person.

Ilya: 1
What? Seriously, she's the lowest?

Riel: 22
Wait, what?


People who should take this test for the lulz: Larro, TestPattern, Gnoll.
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No. 23330 ID: 175f4a

>>333129
Riel is the last of her kind of an ancient race of a technologically advanced civilization. that is pretty sue-ish. BUT she is SUPPOSED to be the focus of the story, a true Sue steals the spotlight from the main character.
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No. 23331 ID: 4cdabb

>a true Sue steals the spotlight from the main character.
No way. That's only true in the sense of fanfics vs source material. In the context of the stories themselves, Mary Sues are ALWAYS the main character. Right down to the original one named Mary Sue.

>>333129
see: >>317924
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No. 23332 ID: d560d6

Buswald: -4 (Man, this doesn't really work with robots.)
Angry Drawfag circa DFQ1: 11 (I decided to put "can hit Restore" as "super healing powers". Ouch.)
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No. 23340 ID: 732129

Interestingly, if you stat out the Orb of Infinite Consciousness according to what it's been shown to be able to do you get a Mary Sue.

Check it out:

Part 1

1.e.Involve a noun or verb not usually used as a name, spelled normally or not?
1.f.If a noun, is it related to nature, a weapon, a gemstone, darkness, or something mystical?
1.i.A really unusual-sounding name (unusual in the character's time/place/world) that you made up yourself?
1.j.Unusual for your character's time, place, and/or ethnicity?
1.l.Chosen specifically because you thought it had a meaning appropriate for your character?

21.Is your character partially or completely some type of metaphysical/spirit-type being?

26.Does your character voice political, social, and/or religious opinions which you share?
26.a.Does he/she convince others that his/her way of thinking is right?

28.If your character has a spitfire personality, sharp wit, or attitude, are the tongue-lashings they give other characters always deserved and justified?

35.b.Split personality - so your character can do "bad" stuff, yet still have a claim to innocence?

37.Does your character suffer from amnesia?

40.Does your character habitually share profound wisdom and knowledge?

45.Does your character pick up new skills unusually fast during the course of the story?

50.Does your character use magic in a typically non-magical universe?

52.Does your character have telepathic and/or telekinetic (Force-like) abilities in a world where this is unusual?

68.Does your character possess a unique trinket that is magical and/or has some special significance? (Usually the Orb is the trinket)

74.Is your character some kind of 'chosen one' and/or a major part of a prophecy?


Part 2

9.Does your character play a major and pivotal role in saving a world, race, or group to which he/she does not belong?


Part 4

1.Do you or have other players told you that you constantly try to bring the story's spotlight onto your character, or have your character do most of the heroic/cool stuff?


Part 5

1.Do you ever poke fun at your character's faults/weaknesses and/or use them as plot devices?

2.Has your character ever been honestly selfish, petty, lazy, shallow, or pointlessly cruel?


Total Score: 38, Fanfiction authors, you might just want to start over. Role-players and original fiction authors, at this point your characters are likely to provoke eye-rolling and exclaimations of "yeah, right!" from your readers. (Well, at least from me.) Immediate workover is probably in order.
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No. 23342 ID: 754124

>>333140
A negative that's not listed:
Is your character totally dependent on others to accomplish anything?
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No. 23343 ID: 732129

>>333142

That'd still come up to 37 points, which still in Mary Sue territory. Not like it's a really a bad thing, the Orb is a framing device and several player characters all in one.
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No. 23349 ID: d560d6

>>333140
You're not supposed to do both parts 2 and 4.
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No. 23350 ID: 5fe4a8

>>333140
Well, that's not really fair. Of course the Orb registers as a completely overblown plot-required self-insertion device, because that's really the whole point, isn't it?
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No. 23351 ID: 701a19

>>333140
>28.If your character has a spitfire personality, sharp wit, or attitude, are the tongue-lashings they give other characters always deserved and justified?

Hahahaha! Yea, we wish. Remember that time when a secondary character did exactly the right thing and we made the protagonist treat them like shit for no real reason?
Oh, wait, that happens a lot.
How about that time we bitched at a primary character for doing something that they hadn't really done when we didn't have any evidence suggesting they did it?
Wait, that happens a lot too...

The OIP makes a lot of baseless accusations, doesn't it?

Also, I'd like to append the following:
1g:Something that your character chose for him/herself?

2:Is your character also known by a cool nickname or unique title/address? (Voices Ball)
2:More than one?(The Voices, Sparkly Ball, Anomaly 33, etc...)

27:Does your character express unusally free, enlightened, or "liberated" views on sex and romance for his/her time/place? (How was this not on there before?)

29:If your character is openly defiant or disrespectful toward authority figures, is your character always justified and in the right? (We like any authority that doesn't give us problems. Everything else winds up being part of the problem.)
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No. 23402 ID: 34c9bb

>>333130
Since when was she the main character? I don't remember even roughly outlining a spotlight for anyone, no exception here.
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No. 41114 ID: b6ca92

Chee got an 18.
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No. 41115 ID: eba49f

>1.e.Involve a noun or verb not usually used as a name, spelled normally or not? (and other name stuff)
If the character is an AI, having a noun based name name doesn't count as unusual in most settings. NOT having a descriptive name is more unusual for AIs in most settings.

>26.Does your character voice political, social, and/or religious opinions which you share?
I think this is usually only an issue with characters who are not player characters.

Also,
>Does your character frequently carry knives, daggers, or other little sharp pointy objects concealed within his/her clothing for no other reason than that they might be come in handy?

It is strange to list as a Mary Sue trait. Those things are actually practical when you expect to be killing people.
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No. 41119 ID: 28e94e

Oh hey this thread again.

Tested a bunch of characters from quests I'm currently reading, just for the lulz. Lowest was August from Before the Storm with a 2 (could go as low as 0). The three highest were all from Bad End Quest (which were all in the upper 20's).
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No. 41120 ID: 3bad4c

>>350919
*Looks at questions*
but..but..
all of that is the setting!
*facepalms*
That's what adventurers ARE in the setting.
Taking how normal these characters are compared to other adventurers into consideration? Abed rates less than 10.
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No. 41123 ID: 1854db

>>350920
Yeah, that's the point. This test is for comparing your character to others around them. If they stick out like a sore thumb they're a mary sue.
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No. 41124 ID: 35e1a0

>>350915
for no reason OTHER THEN might come in handy. for killing people is another reason.
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No. 41125 ID: 28e94e

>>350924
Still, I know plenty of people IRL who carry knives on their persons all the time.
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No. 41126 ID: 35e1a0

and again, you should only decide it's weird when compared to others in the same setting.
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No. 41128 ID: e1359e
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41128

Authors, remember to take this test with a grain of salt!

While it appears to highlight many of the more typical traits of Mary Sues, it does not encompass many archetypes of characters.

On top of being somewhat incomplete in that way, it is also poorly written in some places.

Certainly amusing, though!
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No. 41588 ID: 2b5dcf
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41588

7b - skinny fuck
11 - the shirt and the hair are a reference to a certain pair of french people, does that count
30 - his occasional inability to talk to people = being unable to explain to cops that it really was his friends who smoked marijuana in here, not him
70 - ...I suppose I haven't even thought about his parents
Part 2
7 - how the fuck did you get that job, man
Part 5
2 - lazy and forgetful in ways that impact others' lives significantly
4 - dat face
10 - sometimes he runs into those guys at the gas station and, hey, they aint nice
12 - you guys saved his damn life man, also talking to salamander girl
16 - goes without saying

All in all, 13
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