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>>101227
>everyone chill out this time, this thread got really, really weirdly heated twice
Agreed. I'd rather not see another ugly meltdown in here.
>>101235
>I mean it was very tame and tasteful compared to the Coxwette sex scene, which featured depictions of non-silhouette genitals and bodily fluids. For that reason, I would put it more toward option #2 than #1
Which, fair enough I guess. The few scenes Coxwette has had were a maybe little more explicit. A little. I don't feel comfortable dragging Enemy Quest into this discussion too much, but the level of detail described is still pretty similar, even if the level of detail on the art isn't as high. Also, maybe consider that Enemy Quest has many, many more (slightly less) explicit sex scenes than Coxwette. Like several per thread if I recall.
But honestly, I'm not sure how useful it is to compare these quests directly, so I'm gonna stop doing that. It's apples and oranges, since Enemy Quest has a different kind of setting, characters, and narrative focus, and thus has different needs anyway.
I think the fact that you can say Coxwette sex scene and be mostly right is kind of telling, though. I mean, you've had four threads and maybe two sex scenes between them. The story-porn ratio is skewed way towards story here. Which works, and I like that it takes a realistic amount of effort for Charlemagne to talk people into sleeping with him.
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>>101233
This exchange is making me question the usefulness of the distinction between tasteful and explicit here. Whether or not you show a dick or vagina or bodily fluids isn't really an important question in the context of good or bad storytelling, which seems to be what RML is worried about here. I think breaking down the content to a checklist isn't really useful in terms of deciding whether or not the story is working.
>>101236
>No accounting for taste, but I found that orgy scene text-heavy and confusing. And the art is admittedly not to my taste. No offense intended, DM.
None taken! And honestly, I can understand that Enemy Quest isn't for everyone. It leans heavily on Brom's writing skills, so it's more geared toward people who like to read anyway. I'd say more, but this isn't really the time or the place for that.
>Coxwette's have so far been minimalist and actually good.
This. The scenes weren't excessively long or lavish, and kept the focus on the characters.
>If we're meant to role-play the character, shouldn't the seedy bits feel suitably dirty and overt?
I'm in agreement here. I feel like it would be tonally kind of weird for everything to get super-modest the second any actual sex happens, given the kind of character Charlemagne is and the tone of the quest. Also, I feel like going out of your way to avoid showing genitalia is a good way to ruin shot composition. I'd just pick the same angles that I would if they were wearing clothes, personally.
>I mean, I know what I think, but I'm not making the quest.
This is also important to consider. What do you want to do, RML? If you're not comfortable running something super-explicit and you want to tone it down, that's fine. Just try not to forget that most of us don't actually care how how explicit it is or isn't, so long as the story is good.
But since you're running this thing for free, I honestly think it should ultimately be up to you. You certainly don't have to do anything on our behalf, and it honestly might be a bad idea to slavishly follow audience expectations anyway. Do what you want.
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