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97520 No. 97520 ID: 3009b4

** SAMI'S QUEST CHAPTER THREE DISCUSSION THREAD & TEN STORE **

Your host is Moxy Luna. That's me!

Hi everyone! I'll be your host and handler for Chapter Three. OK, so this is TOTALLY a beta, so you'll need to forgive me if things go a little ka-ka, 'aight?

OK. So you guys have 203 Influence Points. What we're doing right now is adjusting some of the applications you bought, making them a bit smarter, and amalgamating some of the functions. So things like SCAN will fire more automatically unless it come piss somebody off.

Meantime, when you want to talk shop -- instead of bogging down your quest, you can just come back here and we can talk about things like scans and information and all that kinda stuff.

Also, I gotta be straight with you guys, I'm kinda on probation right now because I got a little too involved with my last job. Soooo if I can't tell you about something it's because I'll get in trouble. Also if the admins are gonna talk, it's probably gonna be here now instead. If you wanna talk with one of them I can call 'em up.

I'm still getting my stock set up but I'll let you know when there's new stuff to buy.

Oh yeah -- you're probably wondering if the upgrade went through. We kinda went with a half-way rollout, so just holla at me if you have questions.
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No. 97521 ID: 02422f

>questions
So what happened to grumpy, schemey, and perky?

Does this half update include the the spirit-avatar, or are we sparing Sami that?
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No. 97522 ID: 15720c

>So what happened to grumpy, schemey, and perky?
>Also if the admins are gonna talk, it's probably gonna be here now instead. If you wanna talk with one of them I can call 'em up.
Basically, Moxy is now our personal channel Admin, while the other Admins are... Well, I'm not even sure if they officially qualify as administrators now? They're basically endorsers that support the server and can therefore use their funding to influence things--should we be willing. Sounds like Moxy's got her own admins, though, and is simply the one we get to talk to directly. Anything above her, she has to handle, and we don't get to see the conversations since they take place in either another channel, or in private messages. Think Internet Relay Chat.

>Your host is Moxy Luna.
I, uh... Is that appearance an avatar, or did you give yourself a more Mortal-like face without fully changing the body? Sorry, it just looks like you've got paws still.
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No. 97523 ID: 2ccbb3

May as well ask about your last job. You look familiar...

Do you have a "bank"? We don't need to use most of our IP most of the time.

Alright Lucy, smack that menu button! Also, we'd like a tech tree display to see what skills are required before an expensive skill becomes competently useful.
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No. 97531 ID: 066a87

Moxy, how can I make Sami experience the flavors of a pina colada?
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No. 97567 ID: 3009b4
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97567

>So what happened to grumpy, schemey, and perky?
Moxy: Eh, still around if you wanna talk to 'em.

>Does this half update include the the spirit-avatar, or are we sparing Sami that?
Moxy: It's an option but since you guys didn't seem to keen on it we didn't do anything with it. Let me know if you change your mind.

>I, uh... Is that appearance an avatar, or did you give yourself a more Mortal-like face without fully changing the body? Sorry, it just looks like you've got paws still.
Moxy: I've got a lot of shifting I can do, but I stick to this one because it's cute and if people hit on me it's less socially acceptable.

>May as well ask about your last job. You look familiar...
Moxy: I don't think we've met before. Where do you think you've seen me?

>Do you have a "bank"? We don't need to use most of our IP most of the time.
Moxy: Your IP is stored like a battery, it's not something bankable.

>Alright Lucy, smack that menu button! Also, we'd like a tech tree display to see what skills are required before an expensive skill becomes competently useful.
Moxy: OK, I'll bring that up in a little bit.

>Moxy, how can I make Sami experience the flavors of a pina colada?
Moxy: Well, I can arrange something but it will cost ... oh about 10 IP. It's complicated, but basically I'm going to need to use one of the mirrors -- either Phooka's or Skyia's -- and Sami's going to need a straw.
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No. 97569 ID: 15720c

>Moxy: I've got a lot of shifting I can do, but I stick to this one because it's cute and if people hit on me it's less socially acceptable.
"Less" is about the extent of it... It's very hard to become "Not at all" socially acceptable among this collective.
>Moxy: Well, I can arrange something but it will cost ... oh about 10 IP. It's complicated, but basically I'm going to need to use one of the mirrors -- either Phooka's or Skyia's -- and Sami's going to need a straw.
Huh, that sounds interesting. We'll have to get her to find a straw.
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No. 97571 ID: 02422f

>I stick to this one because it's cute and if people hit on me it's less socially acceptable
You just made it a challenge. Now someone is gonna hit on you as a matter of principle.

>Well, I can arrange something but it will cost ... oh about 10 IP. It's complicated, but basically I'm going to need to use one of the mirrors -- either Phooka's or Skyia's -- and Sami's going to need a straw.
I would have thought we could just apply a taste phantasm, maybe touch too, if we want to get the feel and texture right. Although the cost would probably end up being close to the same, and there'd be more risk of us messing the simulation up.

Sure, why not. A pick me up option is something she could probably benefit from.

>We'll have to get her to find a straw.
Just add it to the shopping list before we leave town. Without telling her what it's for. We'll let her wonder until we spring the surprise.
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No. 97758 ID: 3009b4
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97758

:: INCOMING MESSAGE - GRACE THE SEAMSTRESS ::

Grace: Your message was received. I've also noted that the CURSE from Ronnalin has become ACTIVE in Welser. What's happened?
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No. 97759 ID: 3009b4
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Moxy: Hi Grace! How ya do'n, sistah?

Grace: Oh Moxy! I didn't realize you were handling this group.

Moxy: Just started right after the curse went nuts.

Grace: Situation?

Moxy: It's been feeding on Sami for years, but when Sami found out about the Welser mayor's involvement, the moment they touched...

Grace: Understood. Players...

Moxy: They're used to being called spirits.

Grace shrugs: Spirits. I'm too far away to effectively do anything about this situation, but you need to stop the Curse at its roots. The Curse will already be working on the Mayor to draw him towards Ronnalin, and you need to prevent this from happening in any way possible, even if you have to kill him. If you don't, the truth will get back to Ronnalin's Mayor and he'll be lost again in fresh rage, lashing out at anything in his way, Sami included. I can't estimate how much restraint he'll be able to apply upon the curse, so assume the worse if it occurs.

The only thing that will eradicate the curse will be to find ... the 'essence' of the children and return it to the town. Unlike the Mayor or Piper, their souls have long departed but their essence will have pooled out at their place of death just like the other townsfolk.

Find the essence, return it to the town. Sami will be sensitive to it. Do not let her die, do not allow anyone she is close to die, and if at all possible keep Welser's mayor alive and away from town.

Moxy: OK! By the way, do you wanna pina colada?

Grace: You know I'm just the messenger version.

Moxy: Someone keeps bringing it up and I thought I'd keep the gag running.
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No. 97760 ID: 02422f

>>97758
(for anyone who's forgotten, the exact text of our message / what we told Grace was)
>-mailto: Grace the Seamstress subject: Sami Returned to Ronnalin text: Help, she's here in town because she's at least half mad with guilt and grief, and is determined to address the curse or die trying. I'm no specialist in this kind of thing and I'm not sure how to handle it.

>What's happened?
Thank you for responding. We'll skip to the highlights.

Sami eventually confronted the curse directly in order to deliver the unpaid gold from the town coffers to the piper's shade. A harrowing experience, but he was lucid enough to provide insight into the situation afterwards.

Sami withdrew from Ronalin to Welser in order to resupply, rest, and gather information. While there, she managed to gain the support of the local dragon and her family. Unfortunately, one curse spirit seems to have hitched a ride and remained inactive and undetected until it could jump ship to another host. We're rather disturbed at the prospect of a curse capable of such a strategy after the fairly mindless aggression we encountered previously.

We had been planning to return to Ronalin, but in light of this development, I don't think we can leave Welser until this breach is contained or expunged.

Are you in a position to offer any assistance, or to advise? Sami seeks a peace or resolution that can only come from confronting her past, and we seek to protect her and what others we can from further harm.
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No. 97762 ID: 3009b4

>We're rather disturbed at the prospect of a curse capable of such a strategy after the fairly mindless aggression we encountered previously.

Grace pauses for a moment. Moxy smirks.

Moxy: It's not really Grace, but a messenger 'image' of her sort of like a Diet Coke is different from the original recipe Coke. 'Thinking' slows her down some.

:icongracesad:
Grace: Curses are complex and the susceptibility of the person depends on distance in terms of time, meaning and geography. What saved Sami was most likely the distance her family took her, but unresolved curses don't go away, they just become a part of you after awhile. The reason why the curses attacked directly was because Sami was directing them. It's responding to her self-hatred. And that hatred now follows the Mayor of Welser. Again, distance is your ally. Ronnalin is a long distance away and the mayor's memory of the events are deep in his past -- he won't attack himself. But the Curse upon him has grown from Sami, so what it lacks in resources within the mayor's mind it will make up with tenacity. That is ten years worth of guilt, self-loathing, loneliness and pain and it might be a long way from Ronnalin but it has plenty of energy.
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No. 97763 ID: 3009b4

>We had been planning to return to Ronalin, but in light of this development, I don't think we can leave Welser until this breach is contained or expunged.

Grace: You cannot lift the curse from here. You must remove it from the source. If you can remove it from the source, Sami will have the means to remove the last of its taints from Welser afterwards.
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No. 97765 ID: 02422f

Is the seamstress title significant? By fate or coincidence, we've recently met another who holds it.
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No. 97770 ID: 3009b4

>Is the seamstress title significant? By fate or coincidence, we've recently met another who holds it.

Moxy: Oh, I can field that one. Amy actually IS a seamstress, so it's not so much a title as much as a job description. In the case of Grace, it's because if you really piss her off she'll use all that inky black stuff that impersonates her hair on your body to sew things shut or bind them together. Like picture an ambush spider except instead of biting you it does that. She's careful enough that it's rarely fatal and she'll leave you that way until you say you're sorry.

Grace actually DOES sew too, but doing ordinary things like mending socks isn't what people remember about her.

For the record, a lot of Redeemers do nasty stuff like that even if they're like Grace and were just troubled instead of being a former massive jerk ass. They use scare tactics first, and then ramp it up as required. Around here, a lot of the time mundane job titles have a certain context. If the person says or writes the title casually, it's probably exactly what it means. But if there's trouble and people call for 'The Painter' instead of the town guard, that person's packing something special.
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No. 97796 ID: 2ccbb3

Where is the nearest Fae Portal? I get the feeling we might need some assistance on this.

Specifically, the fae might not lift a finger on the curse but if we find a way to get them to obstruct the Mayor, that might help.
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No. 100310 ID: 3009b4
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100310

Moxy's Ten Store is open!

OCULUS AVATAR now available -- this avatar replaces the SCAN programs. Oculus's appearance (and name) can be reconfigured if a new image is submitted.

Oculus will automatically scan for active domains and magically active items/people for you. You can also change your vision to Oculus's point of view and direct it to change position as required. Oculus's point of view has two modes - PHYSICAL (your normal view) and SPIRIT (its default view) which allows you to see domain representations and connections. Spirit Vision also allows you to see how you communicate with Sami.

Oculus is free; your programs are exchanged and Oculus upgrades will be available. It is possible but unlikely for an instance of Oculus to be killed as it is not a physical creature and will hide itself from threats when encountered; replacing your instance will cost 10 IP. One upgrade to Oculus is the ability to manifest, granting you the ability to take a visible form to Sami & Amy in a more familiar way than what they're used to.

The HACK AVATAR is now available, default named of "Hailey". Like Oculus, Hailey can be renamed or reconfigured. Hailey can be used to hack domains, with the stipulation that you will need to reflect the target domain in Amy's mirror or Sami's coin first. Hailey will replace the BOTCH, SPOOF and GLAMOUR programs (these are hacking programs). Note that Hacking is dangerous and can potentially get an instance of Hailey killed, but a source version of Hailey will always be available and restored for a fee of 10 IP.

Hailey can fight Curse spirits but Moxy will have to purchase ammunition from the Redeemers and any victories will only be temporary since she'd be merely treating a symptom, not the cause of the curse.


Avatar upgrades are optional; Moxy also has PROGRAM versions of certain avatar abilities like SPIRIT VISION MODE and INJECTION (for fighting Curses) for sale. Using these programs will still cost IP.

Avatars cost 10 IP to initially power-up and then can be given a reserve of IP. Avatars act as your daemons but as semi-sentient creatures they add a layer of security over their abilities and can't be used as easily by enemy spirits. Avatars gain IP when events in the story reflect their purpose (investigation for Oculus, hacking & combat for Hailey) and you will be notified when they do. Avatar IP reserves will be used to resist enemies or focus their abilities as required and you will be notified when they need to draw upon them.

OPTIONALLY, you can use programs AND avatars at the same time, but note that having your own programs available will mean if hacked again they will also be available by enemy spirits and if you don't exchange your programs you will have to re-purchase them for the avatars.


** Please restrict purchase discussion to this thread **
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No. 100312 ID: a075ba

>>100310
I'm all for embedding programs in deamon avatars. The added security is worth it, and the 10 IP to re-instance one if we screw up and get one killed seems low. (Assuming these things are backed up frequently so there's minimal data loss and we don't need to redo our configurations and retrain the thing each time).

If these programs become abilities in the skill-set of an active pseudo-sentient entity, does this mean a decrease and/or change in the IP costs we've come to associate with using said programs?

Would PHANTASM be incorporated into either of these deamons, or does that fall in the domain of one we haven't purchased yet? Or would it just remain an independent program (and vulnerable to curse spirit hijacking)?

(Not sure I like a beholder as an avatar, especially if we would (or at least could) manifest it).
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No. 100323 ID: f562b1

>>100312
We can customize the Oculus avatar, she says.

How much, exactly, though? Like, would a gorgon work, having all of the snake heads looking different ways? Does it actually need a bunch of eyes?
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No. 100329 ID: 066a87

>>100310
Both avatars could be made to look the same, right?
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No. 100434 ID: 3009b4
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100434

>>100312
Moxy: PHANTASM is technically a hacking program (it hacks Sami's senses) so that'd have to go to your Hacking Avie Hailey instead.

As far as IP costs go, it's a complicated, but basically when something happens in Sami's world that the avie likes, it gets stronger.irit so it will gain energy when Sami discovers things.

As far as Avies dying, long story short the only Avatar at risk of dying is Hailey if you send her into another domain to hack it if you buy her.

When it comes to spending IP, if the avie does something it spends its own IP and if it needs help it'll ask. So the more you make your avies happy, the stronger they'll be and the less help they need from you.

This is the easy way of explaining things but if things get more complex I'll let you know or just pull up something from our wiki since it's long and boring.

Now Hailey lets you do something you can't do before -- attack spirits directly and do better hacks since she provides you a point of reference like Sami. This kinda hacking is what makes her powerful but it's also the main way she can get herself killed. I'll go into the details if you decide to buy her.

>>100323
Moxy: Oh, Oculus and Hailey are both super-squishy since they're not actually physical, I can make them look however you want, within reason. You give me a picture, I'll do my best.

>>100329
Moxy: While you could make them look the same, it wouldn't be very useful since the only people who can see them are you, me, and maybe Sami & Amy with the help of the mirrors. Oh, and Hailey can totes shape-shift on her own (it's part of hacking) but she still needs a 'true' form for security purposes. Also you can rename Hailey and Oculus -- their true names and forms are just for security. Like a user-name/password combo. The Curse won't be able to impersonate them or hack 'em unless it can figure out both. Speaking of which... don't tell Sami their true names. If she gets compromised again the Curse could use this information. Give 'em nicknames and use them instead.

So -- you wanna buy Hailey too? And do you wanna exchange your programs or keep 'em separate? (Don't worry about INFLUENCE PROBABILITY or talk to Sami, that's part of the TEN)
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No. 100466 ID: a075ba

>Oculus looks
If we want to stick to the same theme, just a plain old floating eyeball, veins and all, is more evocative than a beholder, which I've always thought just look silly.

I suppose if he needs more of a body than that, we could mount him in a bat or a bird or the like.

...or if we want to anthropomorphize him, we could go full eyeball monstergirl ala Gretchen. >>/questarch/677904 (Or eyeball monsterdude, whatever).

I'm fine with the hacker being a cat-elf thing.

>So -- you wanna buy Hailey too? And do you wanna exchange your programs or keep 'em separate?
Yes, and exchange.
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No. 100478 ID: 3009b4

>>100466
Moxy: You can make Oculus look like anything you want. You could turn him into a sandwich or a Pina Colada or a Power Puff Girl; I just used the eye creature because it summed up the functions -- multiple kinds of scans.
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No. 100483 ID: d1fde2

Arby's sandwich avatar is go
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No. 100493 ID: e4f856

tv-head avatar oculus is go
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No. 101480 ID: 3009b4

WIKI ENTRY: Spiritual Salts

Spiritual Salts are the result of opposite spirit types 'mixing' together. This usually happens when lesser spirits of one type are near an event of an opposite type -- for example, if spirits of hate were present during a lovers' kiss. Much like a chemical reaction between an acid and a base, the resulting clash of energy causes a minute amount of spiritual salt to manifest in the physical world -- such a small sample that most scientific tests wouldn't even detect it.

Such salt is caustic to most spirits but not mortals or Redeemers.

Spiritual salt is physically indistinguishable from regular chemical salts, and this is where the concept of salt having protective or magical properties comes from within this world. The association is strong enough that it can temporarily empower chemical salts to have similar properties as spiritual salts when used in ceremony.
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No. 105715 ID: e136ae
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105715

Moxy: Hi guys! IP update: You had 173 IP points remaining, after spending 10 on a pina colada, and 20 points powering up the two avatars.

I have a request from Hailey to buy spirit rounds to fight some CURSE with. Each round costs 10 IP. I've already given her a round -- since it seems you wanna try to fight -- but she would like 5 more. After one round, it leaves you with 163 IP. It's up to you if you want to spend the remaining 50 IP to load her up with ammo. TEN store is fast, so you can buy 'em as you need 'em if you want. I'm OK with letting her spend a bit but I'm always gonna check with you guys before she blows a quarter of your cash.
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No. 105717 ID: 3abd97

>>105715
How do these rounds work? If they're like ammo, does that mean they're chunks of IP she can fire off as an attack? Or are they more like rounds in an rpg or boxing match (opportunities to take action)?
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No. 105732 ID: e136ae
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105732

>>105717
>How do these rounds work? If they're like ammo, does that mean they're chunks of IP she can fire off as an attack? Or are they more like rounds in an rpg or boxing match (opportunities to take action)?

Moxy: It's the former. I know she's holding a gun, but it's basically more like a guided missile. Also this is like chemistry, she's gonna be mixing acids & bases. When this chunk of IP hits, it's gonna make a lot of heat and create spiritual salt -- not enough for you to be able to collect (since I KNOW the next thing out of your mouth is gonna be "Can we pick it up for later?") but it's gonna be very fine and airborne enough to screw with Oculus' detection ability. It's not gonna be serious but it's gonna make static.
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No. 105761 ID: f562b1

Static or no, I'd say it should be fine for now to purchase five rounds.
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No. 105762 ID: 595d54

>>105732
How many rounds do we need to fire to make enough spiritual salt to collect?
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No. 105766 ID: 3abd97

>>105762
I would think if we wanted to collect it we'd have to either convert a massive amount at once, or we'd need to perform the reaction in controlled laboratory conditions, where everything was contained, instead of in the field in open air.

Th scientists we talked to before could probably rig up some kind of containment system if we offered to generate spiritual salts for them? Not sure if it's really cost effective spending IP on manufacturing though. Depends on how hard it is to get spiritual salts otherwise.
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No. 105795 ID: f562b1

>>105766
In order to create sufficient spiritual salts, we'd need a target to actually hit with our IP. For a good target, it'd have to be dangerous. I'd rather not expose the scientists to unnecessary dangers.
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No. 105836 ID: e136ae
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105836

>>105762

Moxy: As a general rule of thumb, I.P. to Spiritual Salt ratio is 1 point of Influence to 1 gram of Spiritual Salt. The thing is, there's TWICE that energy going into the conversion since you need an equal amount of opposing-IP -- but since usually you only care 'bout how much energy you're spending you don't usually actually measure the full value. Spirits don't ever try to purposely make spiritual salt 'cause of the costs and because spiritual salts corrode them.

Like basically, you don't get more salt by mixing it with spirits -- but what it does is break spirits down into their basic parts -- which basically kills whatever it was before. Application spirits like Oculus and Hailey won't die in one hit since they're more complex -- it breaks down their simplest parts first, so they lose abilities before they die. Simple spirits like Curses die immediately on contact.

But if you wanna COLLECT the salt, you can't just kill little things and expect to get a visible bunch, 'cause Spiritual Salt's grain depends on how much I.P. was used when it was made. So that 10 IP that Hailey's shooting will make super-fine grain stuff that's just gonna float away in the air. You wanna get salt you can really see, you're gonna have to kill something with like, 100 IP in one shot for a handful. As a reminder, that's over half the IP you got and you have a LOT of IP relative to most simple spirits. For comparison, Bill Phooka's probably made up of 1,000 IP -- but he's way too complex to one-shot. You could get a collectable amount of high-grade coarse grain spiritual salt if you broke the curse, but then you won't even need it right?
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No. 105837 ID: f562b1

Okay, so Spirits are made out of IP. What about Memory Pearls? What are those made from?
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No. 106077 ID: b7883c

If it possible to upgrade a hacking avatar to temporarily control a non-curse-filled golem (if just to walk it out of the curse radius)?
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No. 106084 ID: e136ae

>>105837
>What are memory pearls made of?
::iconmoxy::Moxy: Memory Pearls are like little computers. They have a little IP core for power, and then they have memories that tell things like Golems how to do stuff. They use the same little bubble that spirits use to protect them from the VOID which keeps it from losing energy. You don't NEED a Memory Pearl to operate one, but most weak spirits don't have those bubble shields so operating a golem is super-draining.

>>106077
>If it possible to upgrade a hacking avatar to temporarily control a non-curse-filled golem (if just to walk it out of the curse radius)?
::iconmoxy::Moxy: Hailey doesn't have the power to walk a golem out on her own. It's gonna take a constant drain on your IP resources to do it. And the Curse has a lot more radius than you think, so you're better off dumping it in the river. Don't trust anything coming out of that town until the curse is gone.
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No. 110616 ID: e136ae

:iconmoxy:
So some people are ask'n 'bout how well Amy can resist Sami's flute if she plays it, so I guess welcome to Illusions 101.

Illusionary programs work by tapp'n into the subconscious and because a lot of the time people are way too willing to see what they wanna see.

Controll'n grown ass adults is a lot harder than children, and children are harder than animals. Dumb animals are pretty easy to hack because you can mess with their instincts, and insects are the freaking easiest 'cause they're halfway to being programs anyway.

Kids are pretty easy to fool, you play a pretty song and most of them will play right along. 'bout one in a hundred might not fall for it but that's not a hard and fast rule since Sami only survived 'cause of her water faerie blood.

Adults have a lot more variables, they've seen different things, they want different things, they respond different ways. You can maybe sway small groups of like-minded types, unless you get an organized group that are religious, cultist, or military trained. All that training to act in an organized way also gives you a real in by mak'n them think they're gett'n orders from their masters. Again, it's not perfect. You're sometimes gonna get a skeptic hidden in the order, or a loose canon. Sometimes they can break the sway, sometimes they can't. Depends on the make-up of the group. The less restrictive or disciplined the group is, the less likely the charm will keep hold once one person breaks away. Which makes me sound like religion n' military are evil but they're not -- I'm just say'n, it's got its pros and cons and one of the cons is the training to act as a group also creates an exploit when it comes to hacking. A group of chaotic individuals might not be charmable but they're probably gonna get trounced by an organized one.

ANYWAY what you're here for is "Is Amy gonna get messed up if Sami starts playing" and that's why I told ya all that other crap.

Amy is chaotic, and she knows how charming songs work. That means she has a real good chance of resisting or at least figuring out what's going on.

Amy is also under a lot of stress, she's never heard Sami play, and she loves her. Which means she might be drawn towards Sami anyway, and we won't know if that causes a problem without knowing where she is, and we can't figure out where she is 'cause Hailey has her spoofed. If Hailey drops the spoof, then it means the Curse might be able to find her... which is only a problem if Amy's still in range of it.

I also told you that crap about illusions 'cause SAMI is frigg'n in the middle of it. She can't see anything as it is because no matter what you tell her waking mind, no matter how much you support her, you can't change the fact that deep down she hates herself and thinks she deserves to suffer -- not in a few days at least. That kind of wound's been festering for YEARS. Even with Amy's help it's going to take years for that part of Sami to totally heal and until then, CURSE can use it. She'll see bad things and she'll feel 'em 'cause part of her won't forgive herself for not being able to save any of her friends.

It's the spiritual version of an infected wound. Some infections never totally go away y'know -- they just go dormant. If she heals, she can starve it out so it's so weak it can't ever take hold of her the same way again but it's probably never gonna be gone completely, it's shaped who she is.

Since Sami's your anchor for what you can see, you don't get a clear view of anything either and Oculus can't do much without putting himself at risk of being attacked.

Ya gotta make a call.

Show mercy and potentially get betrayed 'cause they're just animals too dumb to know they're being spared, or drown 'em and basically relive the whole thing over as the Piper. Amy might get attacked by the vermin, she might fall in to the river, you don't know. There's no safe or easy decision, you just have to go what you think is right.
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K, so you wanna know how the whole lingering spirit and Redeemer and crap works, right?

It's kinda complicated. I'll try to explain this as simply as I can.

Killing someone is usually a big deal. It is the last memory the deceased has unless you do something like get them really drunk first or kill them in their sleep, and even THEN they might still find you post death. That shared experience marks you. It lets their spirit find you and they can haunt you. Being a ghost is tricky, trying to finish unfinished business on your own can only be done by a certain kind of person -- but haunting someone is a lot easier.

And by "haunt", it's... it's kind of like what you guys are doing right now with Sami, minus the ability to directly communicate, and minus having access to programs. Except Rosemary's killer is dead, so she can't haunt anyone.

Except Sami ATE Rosemary's killer. Cannibalising someone really marks you, OK? Like more than normal. There's a reason why it's taboo. It opens you up to a lot of special risks.

You see where I'm going with this? Like... Rosemary wasn't waiting in the swamp for a Redeemer to show up. She was haunting Sami, just not maliciously. The swamp was just a place where she'd actually LISTEN to what Rosemary had to say, so that's where the Redeemer took her message to rigged it.

I don't *think* Rosemary would still be around, like... not what you might call her 'soul'. Also being haunted fucks you up, especially when you've got survivor's guilt AND some of the essence of the actually guilty. So I'm going to assume that the Redeemer did her/his best to assure Rosemary that her business would be taken care of so she could let go of Sami and move on, and that the Redeemer put all the pieces outside of Sami and the town so it couldn't be corrupted by CURSE.

Does that help?
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