>>477400
It was supposed to be drawn in so I'm going to assume it's a closed door.

>>477394
Don't get all cramped up in there. They might have grenades or other AoE weapons. Send in two squads. One on each side of the door. Wait a turn then have both teams prepare to fire before opening the door. We can use the door for cover.

>>477405
Actually nevermind, if those hexes are big enough to hold an entire 10-man squad then we shouldn't worry about AoE. However, I don't want someone sitting in that leftmost hex when the door opens; that's right in front of the door and out of cover.

>>477407
So 3 of the 10 man squads on our ship move down to take the hexes below our one squad on the ship, leaving the leftmost hex on the breaker ship unoccupied, other squads moving closer to the exit of our ship or preparing reaction fire?

>>477407

agreed, so 4 of the 10-man squads flood the safe room, open the door, get on the floor, everybody do the dinosaur demand surrender, open fire. preferably without explosives since we at least want to get the ship back intact.

>>477417
I think the only explosives we have are anti-vehicular missiles, anyways. Next time we have to bring like some power armor guys and chemical weapons at least.

>>477394
Get a squad on either side of the doorway, then prepare to attack the next turn.

Those 100 test subjects for the plague, they need to be living subject right?

>>477689
Yeah they need to be alive. By the time we have an opportunity to actually use the plague we should be able to capture that many anyways, though. I wouldn't worry about it too much.

Ed Pastry 2013/01/17(Thu)13:44 No. 485923 ID: bf45bb
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4 of the 10 man squads enter the engine room, prepare to fire, and then breach the door. Before the sergeant can demand a surrender, the hallway erupts in gunfire. All squads involved in this fight are behind some form of cover, granting them a bonus to evading gunfire.

The Splinter forces are very lucky this turn, most of the enemy shots miss, while a large amount of our plasma weapons strike down our targets.

There are 10 standard enemy "WARRIORS" on the field, the Breaker's standard infantry unit.
There are 20 noncombatant Breakers taking cover in the bridge of the vessel, almost certainly all crewmembers.
In addition, there is a new type of Breaker infantry firing on us. They are equipped with what seems to be heavy powered armor, and modified Frequency Blasters, normally a Light Vehicle Weapon effective against infantry.

Shots exchanged:
Splinter: 20 Plasma Rifle shots (8 hits)
Breaker: 10 Blaster Rifle shots(1 hit), 10 Frequency Blaster shots(2 hits)

One of the new power armored Breakers roars into all comm channels.
Breaker Warrior: "I, Yex Dol Attas, am the first of the PALADINS to fell a human! May both my foes and allies remember my deed!"

There is some other Breaker chatter as well, consisting mostly of urges to get Yex to shut up and keep firing.

Have the 9-man squad lay down suppressive fire while the 8-man squad cuts across to the northern end of the ship, so that they can flank the Paladin enemy squad while still remaining behind cover.

Move up a fresh 10-man squad to where the 8-man was, after the reposition is complete.

i think the big guys count as light vehicles. use a rocket. ether on the space directly below the normals for multi hex radius or right n the heavies if single hex.

>>485923
8-man squad, 9-man squad, and the two 10 man squads adjacent to them all Fire on the Move. I guess split fire equally between the two enemy combatant squads? The 8 and 9 man squads should be moving into cover inside the room, the 10 man squads should be taking up the previous positions of the 8 and 9 man squads, and the other guys should be moving up in case the breakers have like hyperplasma grenades and blow up all the guys we have shooting. But this is looking pretty much done.

Let's NOT use a rocket inside this place. Keep to what we have but try and focus on taking down the 'Paladins' first followed by their standard warriors. If we take down their heavies, we could hopefully get them to surrender quicker and take the remaining warriors as test subjects as well. We do need 100 and 25 is better than 20.

>>485929
Oh right, there are specific actions we can take. Since there's no suppressive fire, I guess having the 8 and 9-man squads use Fire on the Move would work best here, assuming they can actually get behind cover with those 2 hexes.

I support using a rocket if we know there's no risk of causing a hull breach or damaging stuff that we'd like to research. Light infantry are very expendable, so if we can take out the Paladins using plasma rifles and get more stuff from this ship in the end, so be it.

get the 5-man team out of that connector in case something goes wrong.

have the 10-man teams on standby reinforce the two teams who are losing members.

no explosives, I guess.

Don't we have chemical weapons? Toss them in.

>>485954
Chemical weapons are not quite plentiful enough to be considered standard armament. In my suggested build orders I tried to get quite a lot, but we still don't have an overabundance of them.

>>485957
We didn't distribute any to the ships going into combat against Breakers? The gas that only works on Breakers?

We are dumb. Whatever. Bang a smoke around the corner, wait till you hear coughing noises, then go in with the Stun Prod.

Or you could depressurize the ship and beat the shit out of them while they're stunned.

>>486006
We don't have smoke grenades. Or stun prods. We can see about correcting that after this combat is over, but for now we just have plasma rifles and the anti-vehicle rockets we probably don't want to use.

Ed Pastry 2013/01/25(Fri)16:40 No. 487581 ID: bf45bb
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The two damaged squads advance, using Fire on the Move while two fresh squads Fire on the Move to take their place.


Shots exchanged:
Splinter: 37 Plasma Rifle shots (7 hits)
Breaker: 5 Blaster Rifle shots(3 hits), 7 Frequency Blaster shots(5 hits)

The advancing squads sustains very heavy casualties when moving to their new cover. The squad reduced to 3 men is now panicking and will spend the next turn doing nothing but take cover.

The enemy Paladins seem to be prepared to fight to the very last, but the unarmed crew in the bridge of the ship don't look like they're willing to put up a fight.

The combination of heavy armor plating, cover and reduced accuracy from the moving troops means very few shots actually hit the Breaker Paladins.

>>486008
Assume the only weapons brought along by Light Infantry are their primary guns and the rocket launcher. If you want them to be equipped with different special equipment (like stun weapons, specialized grenades, etc.) you must specify it. Either that, or ask to change the standard equipment of all soldiers, and I'll assume all soldiers will be using those weapons instead of the Primary + Rocket Launcher.

>>485925
Squads already take into account a slight accuracy loss when being fired upon by more than one enemy.

full concentrate fire. pure volume should be enough.

>>487581
Spend this round just plain attacking with all three active squads. Let those Paladins have it.

pew pew pew go

have the squads behind announce that any POWs will be treated with dignity

which is a total lie because we're gonna experiment on them but still

stand ground

shoot paladins

 

>>487598
Bloody hell, did we send these marines to the same place they teach Stormtroopers? THIRTY MISSES? That's an accuracy of eighteen percent! The breakers are on the other hand maintaining an accuracy of 70% on their blasters.

We're gonna need a better way to stabilize troops on the move, like homing bullets or something.

As for tactics, instead of MOVING and shooting, which appears to reduce our accuracy below the level of drunken chimpanzees with revolvers, let's HOLD GROUND and shoot. We'll take crazy ass casualties, but since our marines can't aim worth a damn, let's hope their morale is better than their stability.

Oh, and for the panicking squad, video related.

>>487642

obviously you've never shot at something while you're running for your life as your target shoots back deadly rays of death at you.

>>487642
>18% our accuracy. 70% theirs
I agree about holding ground. The worst it can do is raise their accuracy to 100%. A 42% increase.
But our soldiers should see a much bigger increase which means overall the tactic would be in our favor.

>>487642
There's the accuracy hit from running, sure. But they are also behind cover, and shots blocked by their armor count as misses as well.

That said, we have 5 times the bodies in the current shootout, standing ground seems the best option. Hopefully they don't have grenades or the like.

Also probably just keep shooting even if we don't manage to take the paladins out this turn. They probably can't eliminate us fast enough even if they have heavy explosives they haven't been using.

So, apparently our atrocious accuracy is due to their shields/armor blocking most shots rather then terrible marksmanship.
If memory serves me right, we found out in previous engagement that shields don't stop melee.
So charge while laying suppressive fire and then beat them dead in melee.

>>487899
Our guys are light infantry and theirs are...probably their power trooper equivalent. Melee sounds like a bad idea. Even with 25% accuracy we can probably take them out this turn, and last turn we were Firing on the Move.
If our guys were power troopers, or max strength cyborgs, then melee would be fine, but these guys are basically our cannon fodder. And we didn't bring primary melee weapons.

Ed Pastry 2013/02/02(Sat)12:45 No. 489656 ID: bf45bb
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The squads hold position and continue exchanging fire

Shots exchanged:
Splinter: 26 Plasma Rifle shots (5 hits)
Breaker: 5 Frequency Blaster shots(2 hits)

With all armed enemy forces destroyed, the Breaker crew gives into a Light Infantry sergeant's demands for surrender.

We have 21 total captives, 20 crew and the ship's captain. They captives are silent as they are searched, bound and brought into to main ship.

The infantry involved the battle celebrate the victory, honor the fallen, and return to the ships to rest. 6 of the incapacitated soldiers recover from their wounds after the battle. 4 Infantrymen have been promoted to NADIR Operative status.

Give whatever final orders are needed here, and resume standard build orders. The last base report is:
>>465323

Okay so build order:

First, have a freighter at The Archive drive the 1496 unemployed workers over to Conrix, so that we can use them to dig up more SC.

Turn 1 Conrix: Begin construction of 5x Large SC Derrick, 1x Large Metal Derrick, 1x Large Fuel Derrick, 1x Large Generator

Construct 18x Diplomat

Total cost:
3236 Metal, 90 Fuel, 68 SC, 72 BP, 36 BP to Orbital Factories


And then have the freighter at Conrix load up with 400 SC and have it take that to the Galt homeworld. We should make up the cost of that pretty quickly and it might save them a lot of time in building actual ships.

Well, we should scavenge whatever we can from the debris and prep the captured ship for research and disassembly. With the way breaker alloy works, there is probably a small gold mine of SC and other goodies in the wreckage.

We should also contact the Galt. We took care of the fleet causing them trouble I believe and they should be able to work once more. Who knows? Perhaps this would be enough proof to have the rest of the Galts to ally with us.

As before, sell them the plans for the Orbital Shipyards and also get them to work on helping us build some proper capital ships. Might want to look at the plans for the space combat battle cruiser. Certainly going to need that soon enough.

Other than that, try to make some Juroko mines along with the Diplomats. It's obvious now that Diplomats are damn handy, so setting them up as a defense grid for our planets would be a good idea.

We also want to tow that breaker ship to our prime research world, whatever that is (Ive lost track) All breakers should be split up onto different human ships so they can't activate anything dangerous. Meanwhile ship enegineers should go over the ship with a fine toothed comb to shut down the main power core and any auxilery power sources to prevent any sort of comunnication.

We'll be finished with the current research project this turn so I suggest we immediately start on investigating the ship for new research opportunties. Perhaps interrogating the captain can come with that.

We also gotta set up a more proper marine protocol.

>>489673
Yes, and then LET'S OFFER THEM LUCRATIVE DEALS ON GOOD CONDITION ALIEN TECHNOLOGY, BEST QUALITY, ONLY AVAILABLE AT CRAZY HU-MANS' ALIEN EMPORIUM.

But seriously, we should sell them some of those worthless breaker guns and our Anti-Breaker chemical weapons. Oh, and suggest they form colonies to avoid getting Splintered like Earth did.

yes let the galts know the enemy fleet has been destroyed and we lost no ships. but also let them know this was a small fleet but we as well were only using our small ships. which are equipped with a smaller version of the defense gun.

>>489667
Whoa dude, we're already making 4 large SC derricks in Conrix! We don't need 5 more, that's overkill! We especially don't need another Fuel derrick; we can resupply fuel more easily via nebulas, and we have a massive surplus anyway. Also, uh, Conrix has been scouted by the enemy and we can expect a Breaker fleet to arrive there in (COMPLETELY UNKNOWN) turns. We only have, like, two turns warning due to our detection radius and I keep wanting to send a scout down where their scout vessel fled to so we can find out how much time we have. We might want to start building more stuff in Thoth instead? Actually, no. It lacks SC so we can't really support any significant military production there. Perhaps we should start building in Hylios, or set up a mining colony on that SC-rich world we saw earlier. Which world was that, again?

Speaking of Thoth, shouldn't it have income? Two large derricks are operational there, and iirc they are Metal. IIRC I wanted to build a small Factory there to supply the base with luxury goods using that metal income, but whatev. Actually, on my spreadsheet we HAVE a small factory there. Odd. Anyway, if we're shipping workers from Thoth, ship some nonworkers to Hothouse to get them enrolled in schooling. Give and take.

Also you didn't state how many turns that build order was for(looks like 1 turn?), or what research project we should work on next... though I think we already have an assigned order for research. Wasn't it to research the <UNNAMED ALIEN> Culture, then Tactical Implants?

Let me tack on the next 3 turns for it:

4-turn TOTAL build order
108 BP/turn
-36/turn for OF assist
72/turn
*3 more turns=216
499 SC surplus (and another 108 SC per turn)
6 Naval Shells 210 BP 240 SC
6 Chemical Gasser (x15) 24 Metal 6 BP

It might be a good idea to make another Large Factory, or more than one, at this point. Hmm, yeah, let's do that.

2 Large Factory 1200 Metal 16 SC 650 Workers 36 Profs
Doable.

>>489673
We didn't take care of the fleet. We killed like, half of them. We should fly our battle fleet over to the Galt world and eliminate the rest. The Galts will be able to finish building their cannon defenses after we take care of the Breakers, which means we can then fly our battle fleet back home to make sure Conrix doesn't blow up.

We should probably research a similar planet-based cannon. It should be really easy to do since we have a similar concept already in our Lunar Cannon so we'd just have to modify the blueprint to compensate for atmosphere.

>>489756
We sorta need about 6000 more SC at like a bare minimum, and we have workers not doing anything, and we still need to be on this planet for quite a while if we have any intention of finishing that Cruiser. Also we don't have anywhere to run TO yet. When we find a place to move to I will gladly start moving operations there, but we kinda have to scout one out first. I'm also not sure how many professionals we have potentially free but if I remember correctly it was...not very many. If I had a better idea I'd say yeah get some factories up, but we DO need that SC income because even another five is only going to be like...2000 more before we probably have to leave. Looking at numbers, we have... probably 112 professionals free? Maybe a couple more? So yeah probably should switch a couple of those derricks over for a factory. Something like 4 SC derricks, 1 metal, 1 additional factory?

And I made a 1 turn build order because a bunch of stuff comes online next turn, and then the turn after that the massive orbital factory comes online and that uses additional BP to support, we were going to move the cruiser into that. Not sure what we were going to do with the third large orbital, maybe use it to refit ships with warp 3 if that requires orbital BP?

>>489775
We have 152 free profs in Conrix. That's enough for like, 8 more large factories. We'll be able to make another two factories just fine. I'd like to note that derricks don't use profs.

10 SC derricks would produce 270 SC a turn, fyi. I don't think we can even spend that much without building a few more factories on top of those two... but I guess we could trade it to the Galts instead?

Oh and we're already making a Large Generator (it'll be done next turn) so we don't need to make another one.

>>489777
Correction: After the Massive Orbital Factory is online, we will only have 122 free profs. Still enough to run a bunch of ground factories.

Oh, we already have one Large Factory in the works too. So next turn we'll have three of those, which means we have more BP and

OKAY

Rescinding my 3-turn build order add-on

>>489777
We could spend about 11,000 SC just on neural implants if we wanted them for everyone, and like another 22,000 if we wanted max strength implants for everyone. A battleship costs 2000 SC to build, and we still need about 2000 SC more worth of Disruptive Shells. Our carrier could support additional Bombers outfitted with Diplomats for future space combat, might want to build those and shells for them too. The Galts could probably use any SC we had to build their own stuff, or to build stuff for us. Also the idea was to get SC while we still had a planet with 100% efficient SC mining, in case we couldn't find one to run to. We don't have a lot of options for where to run unless we want to risk being near a place where the breakers already found us. The only SC-rich thing I can think of is maybe that place by the Gester homeworld? There might be a good place in the universe with the Anomaly Derelict ship, but we haven't sent any scouts out yet.

We have professionals for some more factories, but they also use workers. 325 per large factory.

>>489786
We'll have like 3000 workers to spare in a few turns so that's not a big deal.

>>489796
??? From where? The guys in training don't finish for another 24 turns.

>>489804
We already have over 1500 sitting in Conrix, and Hothouse pooped 1500 out a few turns back, which are sitting there waiting to be transported to Conrix.

>>489808
Most of those guys on Conrix get a job next turn. 246 left over, which combined with all the guys on Hothouse is 1742 unemployed workers. So here's an adjusted 1 turn build order.

Turn 1 Conrix: Begin construction of

2x Large Factory
4x Large SC Derrick 1x Large Metal Derrick
1x Medical District

Construct 18x Diplomat

3436 Metal, 90 Fuel, 66 SC, 72 BP, 36 BP to orbital assist
Have freighter ferry over all those unemployed workers from Hothouse, again, so that doesn't get missed.

Also still want to send the Galts SC to give their space industry a kickstart, does anyone else have any objections to that?

>>489980
That looks good.

We'll have a bunch of surplus SC and a bit of a donation to the cause can boost our diplomatic relations with them quite a bit, I think. Worth the cost.

Maybe we can get some of their workforce doing stuff for us, in return.

>>490052
yeah that is the idea. in exchange for the blueprints they are offering us 1000 BP. i say put that towards a mobile massive orbital constructor and battleship.

Oh, we should also have the Contemno head back to Conrix so it can be refitted for Warp 3 and sent back out to scout the new universe, Incipient I think. We need to find a new base of operations, and also locate that Derelict.

experiment with them for the plague, unless you need all 100 subjects to be experimented on simultaneously, in which case keep these ones alive at all costs until the remaining 80 are captured.

we should contact Gulch again.

also, we need to build up our fleet a lot if we're to free those slimy aliens from their breaker guards. uh, I'm assuming the guards are breakers.

Ed Pastry 2013/02/18(Mon)17:08 No. 494221 ID: bf45bb
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News of the victory reaches back home, causing a large boost in morale, at least temporarily.

4 LARGE SC DERRICKS, 1 LARGE SMELTER, 2 LARGE FACTORIES and 1 LARGE POWER PLANT have finished building in CRESCENT CITY, CONRIX.

The MASSIVE ORBITAL FACTORY finishes next turn.

>>489756
((The income has been fixed. I don't think the factory exists though, searching through the threads don't give me anything.))

>>489980
This Build Order is followed for the turn. The buildings finish in 3 turns, and the Freighter VESUVIUS is ferrying from HOTHOUSE, THOTH 1742 unemployed WORKERS to CRESCENT CITY, CONRIX.

Cite a specific amount of SC to send to the Galts and a ship to carry it to them.

>>489673
The Breaker ships were quickly stripped of whatever looked like it had some SC in it. A total of 41 SC has been reclaimed.

>>489675
Unfortunately the ships are too big to stuff into our own ships' cargo bays, and the ships can't drag stuff around outside of their hulls while they're warping.

The ships' communications arrays have been disabled or destroyed, but it looks like any message the Breakers wanted to send have already been relayed.

>>489691
The Galts have been advised to form colonies as quickly as they can. They accept the advice, but it will take some time before they can become spaceborne, and even longer to set up something of a reasonable size. The Galts will offer some BP or METAL if the guns you want to get rid of are shipped to them.

>>489693
The news of the Splinter victory has been delivered to the Galt. The Splinter Diplomat made sure to let the Galt know how handily the Breakers were defeated.
Galt Diplomat: "This is excellent news! The memory of the Breaker's ultimatum is already dying away. We still all greatly fear what a war with an interstellar civilization will mean for us as a species, but at least now there is hope that you can protect us. We have faith in you."

>>489756
The 2 ESCORT class ships pulled away from GULCH when the Splinter forces arrived. There are no remaining enemies near GULCH.

>>489691
The plans for the Orbital Factory has been offered to the Galts. In return, they will offer 4000 more BP of production to us, bringing it up to a total of 14000 BP. Reminder: This is only BP they are offering, the resources must be supplied to them and they cannot fabricate starships just yet.

>>491640
The CONTEMNO is returning to CONRIX.

!!URGENT MESSAGE!!
Vice Admiral Dwight: "We've got a signature on the long range scanners, and it looks quite bad. The lone Breaker scout ship that appeared here 8 months ago has finally brought its friends. Scanners report a fleet of mass equal to approximately 12 DESTROYERS. They will arrive in 2 to 3 turns. The information is classified, so the civilians and low-ranked military personnel don't know about this yet."

>>494221
Well this is goo-

>12 DESTROYER FLEETMASS IMMINENT

Well shit.

Uhhh, we best put a rush on those infantry gas weapons, new ships, and helping the Galt build those Warpslug Turrets.

get all combat capable ships together for intercept. have science dudes look over breaker ship and maybe give us a +1 to shield penetration or something.

Ed Pastry 2013/02/18(Mon)17:42 No. 494231 ID: bf45bb
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<<UNNAMED ALIEN>> research has been concluded. The strange species encountered by the CONTEMNO is a hivemind-like entity, referring to itself as a single entity known as the 'Individual'. The Individual is a hierarchy of intelligences, with a central brain (The 'Individual' itself) on their homeworld giving general orders to mostly autonomous planetary superintelligences (called "Philosophers"), which are in turn made up of single semi-sentient entities (called "Delegates") that each span several square miles. The 'hands' of the Individual are the "Custodians", the strange flying creatures that tend to the sessile biomasses and run the industries.

Individual technology places great emphasis on electronic systems and directly interfacing it with its own biology. It uses the countless variety of implants it has to increase it's own intelligence, operate terraforming tools and protect itself from internal and external threats. The starships of the 'Individual' are controlled by placing Custodians or Delegates in organic crystals and hooking them up to the ship hulls.

The Individual has little sense of culture or tradition in the human sense of the word, but still seems to appreciate what it calls "graceful patterns" or "harmony". Things that it considers "graceful" or "harmonious" includes living beings, technological equipment and documentation of science and history.

It also has created its own set of morals made up both by observing other races and its own introspection. The Individual tries its best to cooperate with other sentient races and abhors the unnecessary destruction of sentient lifeforms. It finds races with individual intelligences and free will very fragile and chaotic, but it gladly tolerates their presence and seems to enjoy greatly the company of other alien races, the exception being the Breakers who have defeated and subdued it, mostly because they refuse to constructively communicate with it.

Thanks to the cultural transaction that has taken place, communication between the Splinter and the Individual has been made easier now.




2 techs have been unlocked.
DEEP SCAN allows us to have an additional 2 parsecs to our scan range, and allows us to detect stealth a bit better.

NEURAL NEXUS is derived from Individual physiology and technology. Basically it will allow us to emulate a much more subtle and smaller version of the Individual's hivemind between neurally implanted citizens. This could provide a variety of bonuses, ranging from communication to increasing combat coordination. Abusing this technology might lead to significant morale penalties, however, as humans are still as individualistic as they ever were.

There are some unknown technologies unlocked as well. One requiring Bioceramic and the "Individual" Culture techs, and one requiring the Deep Scan tech.

>>494231
The Individual seems like a total bro. Let's be best friends forever.

I suggest if we study the Neural Nexus that we apply it to squads of NADIR Operatives on a trial basis, to study its' effects. The upside of this is that any morale penalties should be muted, since NADIR is so damn scary.

Can we collaborate with The Individual, maybe get some help building ships to repel this next Breaker fleet?

The Individual is such a cool entity, let's be friends, for eternity, though I am slightly worried that it has only a single major brain on it's homeworld, is it capable of regrowing this brain if absolutely necessary or would it's destruction result in the Death of the creature at large?

Also, has bioceramics been completed yet? My memory is a little foggy, but a fusion of biomorphs and conventional building practices would produce some pretty hardy and adaptive ships, the armor would repair itself, the weapons would produce their own ammo, all backed up by easily-repairable conventional systems.

neural nexus is too damn expensive for now. get integrated tactical would be better. but don't want to get any more implant tech until we get a biotronic facility up and research gen engineering 5 to get rid of rejection chance.

for now i suggest getting some massive scale buildings researched.

also they probably still suffer from

>>494221
Thankfully we have that defense platform on the moon, and a shitload of Diplomats.

Get all our military vessels within 3 turns to Conrix and get every slot available filled with Diplomats. We actually have more Diplomats than we need at the moment! Start installing 9 Naval Shells on the Infractus. More Shells will be constructed this turn to get a complete set of 12.

Advance 1 turn, so we can get a visual on what we're dealing with. Our military on the ground at Conrix should start packing things up to prepare for possible evac, and make a quick estimation of how fast we can get everyone off the planet and into the Carrier. I'm not concerned at this point about reclaiming metal or stripping down buildings at all. All we need to do resource-wise is pack in our surplus of SC, and make sure all our advanced research is unobtainable. Also, put two squads of Power Infantry in the Infractus wielding spaceship-appropriate weapons (don't want to cause any hull breaches), and give half of our Light Infantry squads in the Infractus chemical weapons with anti-Breaker gas. In fact, double the normal compliment of Light Infantry in the Infractus.

Speaking of the Carrier, its population storage vs resource storage ratio has not yet been revisited. It can store 20k resource and 10k civilian while other ships can store twice as much civ as they can resource. It's backwards! We should start prepping the Carrier for more comfortable mass civilian transport immediately. Like, start setting up tents and stuff in its apparently massive warehouse space.

1-turn Build Order:
We don't have enough Workers to staff all our Derricks along with the new Factories. Shut down 1 L Metal Derrick, that'll free up enough until the new shipment of Workers arrives.
No new buildings.
CONSTRUCT:
234 BP avail (270-36)
6 Naval Shells, 210 BP
I dunno what to do with the extra 24 BP. Can it be held until the next turn? Like, start making a seventh Naval Shell with it, I guess?

>>494236
I agree with continuing our planned research line, and get Tactical Implants next.

I'd like to get Deep Scan very soon, though. It will prove invaluable in the war against the Breakers.

What's the protocol for developing new weapons again? I'm thinking some kind of gas grenade launcher for infantry, or some form of boarding torpedo. Or combine the two, make a missile that punches through enemy hulls and emits an arseload of CHIRON gas into their ship.

Oh, and can we develop a nonfatal strain of CHIRON? We could use it in combination with infantry weapons to get ALL the prisoners. The only real problem is we'd only be able to destroy a Breaker fleet with these ONCE before they came up with a counter.

I would suggest that we build some JUROKO mines and start creating a mine field to protect the planet. They are rather cheap and having multiple weapons platforms for our Diplomats that can stay behind while we fight would be a good idea.

>>494223
I estimate based on our previous battle that 12 Destroyer class ships could be disabled/eliminated by 90 Diplomats fired. Escorts have that dumb missile defense though, they might be a little trickier to deal with. Still, 3x57 diplomats is 171 launches, we have the missiles. We don't quite have enough platforms to launch that many at once, though, although with bombers and some additional Juroko platforms we would. I think we can handle this. As long as there isn't ANOTHER fleet just behind it.

>>494246
I don't think we have 270 BP a turn. We have 3 factories, and 2 under construction. Otherwise no issue with the build, need 3 Naval Shells for the carrier.

How does Warp 3 work? We just finished that too but didn't get any info about bonuses/costs/etc.

>>494278
The 2 factories under construction just completed.

We have 2 L Metal Derricks, 6 L SC Derricks, 5 L Ground Factories at our disposal. We can't staff all of them and we have a surplus of metal at the moment so just turning one of the Metal Derricks off allows us to staff the rest.

>>494250
We already have gas grenade launchers. I like the idea of gas-breaching torpedos but they'd only be useful when enemy shields are down... and it might take a while before the enemy ship is incapacitated so that's risky for big enemy ships.

>>494265
JUROKO mines? I forgot about those. In fact, they aren't on my spreadsheet! Hmmm... yes, we could make a ton of those and deploy them, using our excess Diplomats to arm them. I still want to fully shield our Carrier but we can use the rest of the BP after that task to make Jurokos and Diplomats to just completely rip this incoming wave to shreds!

Revised 1-turn Build Order
234 BP available
105 BP: 3x Naval Shell
129 BP: 43x JUROKO

We have a lot of spare Diplomats right now so this first turn should be used to set up the mine field and arm it.

Oh, and JUST IN CASE, fill up one freighter at Conrix with nonworkers and ship them to Hothouse. Wait, wasn't a shipment supposed to be sent over there anyway? The education there isn't at max capacity like it should be! Put 600 of the nonworkers already there into Worker training immediately.
BUILD: 3x Residential District in HOTHOUSE to house the incoming civs and give us more of a buffer there.

perhaps we should hand over some instructions and blueprints to the Galts on how to build space mines.

I find the idea of using breaching torpedoes to be kind of silly considering our enemies have Mass Effect-style shields. if we must upgrade our space guns, I'd much rather we just give them bigger booms instead.

the Neural Nexus thing is appealing. my suggestion would be to research it right after the tactical implants because they seem like things that might sync together.

and since open conflict has begun, perhaps we ought to stop building buildings and invest all BP into building weaponry and more ships to carry them. like bigass shielded battleships with guns covering their walls.

>>494452
Buildings don't cost BP though. Just resources.

>>494315
2 of those Factories are still under construction for 3 turns, along with another 5 Derricks. We only have 162 BP a turn at the moment. Here's a 1 turn build order using what we DO have, though.

Turn 1 Conrix:
162 BP -36= 126 BP

3x Naval Shell, 7x Juroko mines

127 SC, 126 BP used, 36 to orbital assist.

We should send 350 SC on the Fannie May to the Galt, along with having it pick up whatever nonworkers it can carry and fuel/food for them in case we need to evacuate and it isn't there with the rest of our fleet.

>>494572
evacuate where? we can't let even the idea that we may need to leave again appear at all until it is already happening in order to keep moral up.

>>494572
>4 LARGE SC DERRICKS, 1 LARGE SMELTER, 2 LARGE FACTORIES and 1 LARGE POWER PLANT have finished building in CRESCENT CITY, CONRIX.
There's an error in the current status screen. We already had 3 L factories. Now we have 5.

>>494574
We had two factories and a third one just finished construction this turn.

>>494575
Oh. You're right. My spreadsheet must've been ahead of itself, again, as I had us marked down for 3 factories already. Hey, at least this means we're not short on workers!

>>494572
I support that build order. It is really, really unfortunate that we can't build more Jurokos. We should be able to deploy a bunch next turn though.

Ed Pastry 2013/03/03(Sun)16:39 No. 497591 ID: a611d6
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Forgot to put Breaker Navy as a new research as an option thanks to salvaging the Breaker starships(thanks poppyseed). This technology will give greater insight into how the Breaker starships operate, and allow us to make Breaker Naval Weapons. This technology, along with Plasma Weapons, leads to an unknown tech.

>>494235
The Individual is able to relocate its primary intelligence to a Philosopher if the main brain is under attack, but it will take several months to accomplish, and the regenerated main brain will be severely weakened, considering how ancient and well established the original brain is.

Bioceramics is still not researched.

>>494246
20 Power Troopers and 200 Light Infantry are stationed on board the Infractus, along with 200 Chemical Gassers.

As for your comment about the Carrier's cargo capacity, the bulk of the Carrier's cargo space is from it's massive vehicle bay. Still, you're right about the low population carrying capacity, it should be around 15k total populations. Spare cargo space can be used to carry people, with an exchange rate of 20 cargo space for 1 person.

>>494250
Just make a recommendation about equipment you want to research and I'll give you an RP estimate. The more specific you are the better. For your recommendations:
Gas Grenade Launcher: Chemical Gassers already fulfill the same purpose.
Gas Torpedo: 15 RP. These would be fairly difficult to land compared to our current missiles though, and would be completely useless against their shields.
Knockout Gas: 35 RP and 15 Breaker Test Subjects.

>>494278
Sorry I forgot to mention: Warp Tech III is more of a software upgrade compared to the other Warp Techs, so any ships with a Warp II engine automatically moves another square faster.

>>494315
The build order here will be followed unless you want to make a change due to this new information. The workers on the freighter are still in transit, they have not yet reached their destination.

>>494574
>>494575
The current number of active Large Factories should be 3 now, there are 2 factories still under construction.

I think we should research Breaker Fleet now instead of later. The diplomats have been good enough of their smaller ships but I'm worried about larger ones. Especially fleets with a planet cracker.

>>497601
Agreed, especially since it has such a low research value and leads to new research.

>>497601
I have to agree about hitting Breaker Navy right now, since it will take half a turn to do so and will give us valuable insight on their ships. It might even lead to some powerful weaponry. Maybe. Hard to imagine anything stronger than Diplomats and Warp Shells right now. Better would be stronger ship plating.

Oh, and the build order you linked is impossible- it assumes we have 5 L Factories running. This one here >>494572 actually works.

I still think we could benefit from the integrated tactical implant system and memory mod research. We want more research to catch up with the increasing research point cost of tech.

That said, a knowledge of their navy tech is worthwhile enough for me to agree with researching it first.

>>497613
I have no objection to that.

Yeah, pretty much get Breaker Navy research done now. It's 25 RP, no reason not to.

knowing what to hit and how to disable their ships will be quite handy. Hell, for all we know, that secret tech may be the armor we wanted for so long. Certainly would be nice to increase ship survivability.

yep, what everybody said.

Wait a second what am I thinking?

We can get more BP out of our factories. Just stop supporting the Orbitals. We're in a short term crisis here, we need as much BP as we can get. Also why were we only assisting 36 BP?! That only fully assists two Large Orbitals, doesn't it?

Anyway, spend the 36 extra BP on:
12x Juroko.

>>498467
Yeah, I was thinking about that and noticed that apparently we haven't been assisting our orbital factories fully for...I don't even know how long. With the massive orbital up next turn we can assist up to 108 BP between the four factories, or we can just produce some more Jurokos and make up the ship progress later, which at the moment seems a lot more sensible. So just pause construction on the ships for now.

>>498470
Well we don't need to pause construction- there is still some progress while unassisted.

Agreed about breaker fleet research, its cheap and useful.
After that I say we go back to the plan of tactical systems (elmiinate rejection from implants) and memory mods (8x faster training). Our biggest limitation is trained personnel and that will greatly alleviate it.

Ed Pastry 2013/03/23(Sat)11:40 No. 501937 ID: 90368d
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((Changed things so that population on ships don't count on the population on the cities tabs. Still have some problems I need to work out, hopefully will be done by the next new thread))

The MASSIVE ORBITAL FACTORY above Crescent City has finished. A reminder: The MASSIVE ORBITAL FACTORY can be equipped with 2 Naval Guns and 5 Naval Shield Generators

>>494572
>>498467
Build order followed. Each JUROKO mine holds 1 missile each and has the same firing range as a normal starship. Discuss how you want the minefields set up. If you want to be more specific, I can give you a hexagonal grid to use.

Production on the starships has been halted.

>>497620
>>497613
>>498478
Breaker Fleet researched completed, and work has started on Integrated Tactical Implants System.



As the enemy fleet approaches, a better scan of its contents is acquired. It contains 4 GUARDIANS, 4 ESCORTS and one unknown ship, which intercepted communications seem to refer to as a PATRON.

The PATRON has the mass of approximately 6 destroyers, making it either a very small capital ship or a very large main-line combat ship. It appears to have no main guns, instead focusing all the ships' power into a huge device on its back. It's bulky appearance suggests it to have some cargo-carrying capacity.

The fleet is expected to arrive by the beginning of next turn.

Ed Pastry 2013/03/23(Sat)11:51 No. 501942 ID: 90368d
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BREAKER NAVY has been researched.

From this development, we have discerned the best places to aim at on the ships, increasing accuracy by %5. We can also make BREAKER NAVAL WEAPONS, at a cost of 20 METAL, 10 SC and 10 BP. These are the same weapons used by the Breaker Fleets we are engaging right now. They are actually quite a bit weaker than the other naval weapons we have at our disposal, so it is recommended to stick to using Splinter tech.

Most of the valuable data has been wiped from the starship's drives by the ships' captain, but we still managed to glean small bits of information from it. We know that the Breaker Navy is truly enormous, with hundreds upon hundreds of ships at their command, and no small amount of those being capital ships. Despite this fact, a good bulk of the individual fleets we find are quite small due to the fact they are spread out across space, either watching over other civilizations or searching for any human remnants. Breaker ships travel between universes neither by using the Precursor gates we have found, nor by any systems on board their ship. It is quite likely they are being transported by this extra-dimensional force utilized by Totus, though there must be some limitation to this ability since the Breakers appear to still have much trouble moving their fleets around.

A new tech has been unlocked:
STABILIZED PLASMA FIELD: This technology uses some techniques used by the Breakers to better contain the plasma weapons we use, increasing their range by 1 hex. This applies to both ground and naval weapons.

Probably useless to speculate on the nature of the weapon the larger ship is carrying. Could be a large area shield. Could be a AOE weapon. Could be a planet destroyer.

The number of PD guns is worrying though, they'll work just as well on missiles as fighters.

that just means we shoot it with guns, all he guns. and shoot the other ships with the missiles.

>>501942
We should deploy mines so that they are in the most likely place for the battle to commence. Have them spread out a bit but with overlapping fields of fire so that we have at least 5 available to shoot whatever target we desire.

Heck, we could just have them follow our fleet around, if that's possible. Having 19 Diplomat strikes at our disposal during the coming battle means we might not even need anything more than the Carrier. Optimally they would be out in front, as a sort of... extended range. I would like them to shoot down the Patron before it gets a chance to do anything, at the start of combat.

This turn, have shields installed on the Carrier, and make 54 more Jurokos with our 162 BP. Let's just swarm them with mines! Deploy that wave so that it surrounds any approaching fleet completely with at least 10 mines capable of firing at a time and leaving no possibility of retreat.

Or have I misunderstood how the mines work? If they fire automatically, and we can't tell them to delay firing or pick targets... have all but 10 of them deployed so that they trigger in groups of 5 as the enemy comes within range of our fleet. Then the enemy will just shit themselves as they encounter about 5x as many Diplomats as they were expecting. Just in case the unknown energy field is some sort of kinetic reversal field that shoots our missiles back at us, have those extra 10 set up to trigger one round of combat before they get within range of our ships.

So:

1 Turn Build Order

Affix Naval Shells to the Infractus.

CONSTRUCT:
162 BP: Juroko x54

try to disguise the mines as space rocks. with luck some will get in point blank before they are activated. use small single use instant com receivers. basically when the correct signal is sent the com breaks and activates them. this prevents jamming. the reason being if the big thing IS a shield emitter then when it turns the shield on we will have mines INSIDE the shield. and with all power directed to the field a missile to the system should cause a SPECTACULAR failure as everything goes to hell.

Hey, don't forget guys, we can equip weapons on the massive orbital. A set of warp slugs should help us a bit when it comes to fighting these guys. Either way, we may want to layer it so they don't go off at once. The patron seems like it could be a defense unit. Designed simply to tank hits and waste weapons. Remember, in the end these are MINES. They will likely activate when the enemy is in range so keep them out of our ships path and layer them so they do NOT fire at once.

Luckily, we will have the lunar cannon and the rest of our fleet arriving the same time the enemy does. This is going to be one helluva fight.

Maybe we should get our civilians off the ground for this fight, or at least in bunkers so that if the enemy tries to shell the surface somehow instead of fighting us, we won't take many casualties?

+1 range for 150 RP? a steal. cram that into the schedule.

the mines are there to defend Conrix.

>>501977
Well, that Patron ship class may be a planet cracker, so it might not particularly help to have civilians in bunkers. We know they have a planet cracker of some kind, and we don't know what that thing does, so it's worth considering. I'd like to capture it if possible, but we should probably avoid sending bombers directly against it since it's loaded with antifighter guns, and also those can probably shoot down some of the diplomats they would fire anyways. Not necessarily very many of them, but still.

Also it might be some kind of offensive weapon instead of a defensive one, in which case not directing any shots at it would be a REALLY BAD decision.

>>502214
I don't think it's a planet cracker. Splinter knows what that looks like, due to the destruction of Earth.

>>502216
I'm pretty sure we don't. We know it doesn't look like their other weapons, and this doesn't look like their other weapons.

>>502217
there is no way it could have the POWER to do that much damage. i think the "didn't look like the others" means it didn't have the same design details. meaning it was a ship made by totus rather then the breakers.

Look, no matter what it is, the end effect is the same. We need that thing gone asap. Either it's a giant shield/jammer/what have you, or a big ass cannon. Either of those two things makes it a priority target to both end and to disable so we can reverse engineer it.

However, we need to think LOGICALLY about this. The diplomats are going to be handy and the sheer numbers may just end the fight in a moment. HOWEVER, we cannot forget that we have more than just Diplomats and mines. Warp slugs and plasma will help, both for getting pass the anti-fighter guns and the shields. Not only that, but we have the massive orbital we can set up with more warp slugs AND the Lunar Cannon.

My suggestion? Get the orbital set up and the Lunar cannon primed. Moment they warp in, FIRE that bugger RIGHT at the Patron. It should have the longest range of all our weapons, possibly more so than the diplomats. As such, we fire a shot, see what happens and move from there. If the Patron starts to charge, we bring it down hard and fast.

>>502222
Totus provides the power for his magical stuff directly. It's entirely possible they just have some device in there whose only purpose is to get the attention of the magic delivering thing so it can blow up a planet for them.

>>502227
I'm not sure the lunar cannon is that dramatically better than diplomats. It's good, but it's the equivalent of a large building.

Never underestimate what we can do with untested weapons. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that we were running away, thinking our guns were worthless against their ships. We won. Handily.

This is a large gun that uses our latest tech and had to be carried on the Infractus, our carrier, because it was so big. It might not be a one hit killer, but the sheer range and the fact it will be able to avoid the anti-air guns is it's main plus. Even if it doesn't do major damage, we need to plink them as much as we can before they get in range of us AND the planet. Remember, at the end of the day, our major advantage is attacking from long range and if I recall correctly, the lunar can fire and hit anything in the solar system. That's damn good range.