Right AND wrong, actually. Perspective is a wonderful thing, Player.

For example, right now, we can see that a wooden plank is being held up in front of Charlotte, shielding her from what could've been a fatal blow.

What can affect you, can be affected by you. She's bullshitting worse than you were, and trying to distract you from an incoming axebee-demon from behind. You CAN get at her this way, but so might they. You have manifested a blue-version of yourself where she is. Probably due to standing by the crystal that's keeping her own blue version here...You can't see that you are, but WE can!

Several options: Cut the straps to the gems keeping Charlotte here, and you in their lair. Get into close melee with Charlotte, making attacking you a bad idea. Try to maneuver behind her, and out of the 'reach' of the crystal'. Don't forget you're standing on a pissed off spider mother, too.

Hurry now, that axebee is coming and Charlotte isn't without bite abilities either.

Stabbing this thing might be a bad idea, especially if it can just roll over and crush us. Cutting those gems off while you have the chance seems the best course of action.

>>110654
Spiders can't really roll that well, especially large ones like tarantulas and whatnot.

Sock her in the gut! Give her a good ol' haymaker!

...Even better idea! Slip under the wooden board and try snapping her neck!

Well, you know what you have to do, Player.

Kiss her.

>>110636
I see, It's like a projector field that works both ways, that axe fellow behind you could be a danger.

However this does mean that her "shield" has an edge and you can probably roll under it or manipulate it (being a mere board and all.)

Above all you must be wary of the axe blow to be coming from behind you, and the giant ass spider you are currently ridding.

I suggest using the board as an anchor point to pull yourself forward and up for a nice kick to the face of Charlotte.

the demon with the board isnt that strong. simply roll under your sword and hit the glasschild's stomach, use the chains to keep yourself BEHIND the glass child until we get a idea of how many occupiers there are in the other room with your glass self.

Did you see that scene too? If not, perhaps we can astound her with our orb-sight.

There's a guy coming up with an axe behind "you", that is your blue image where she is. We're not exactly sure if that can hurt you, but dodge out of the way anyways. Claim you're amazed she needed a demon with a board to stop your sword, and also that she'd look better without that blindfold and other crazy garb. Also say something about the white mouseguy up top and the clearly racist demon.

- Player 2010/01/16(Sat)10:33 No. 111817 ID: 8f529c
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So, she IS here AND not here. And isn't even a spider. And theres someone coming from behind. And I dont have both arms. And I need the sword to stay standing. And her mother cant stop dancing. Great.

Plank: "Hey! NOW! Cant hold this mortal forever!"
Ax Bee: "I'm coming, dammit! Hold'im still!"

"You were pretty surprised for someone so protected."
Charlotte: "Hehehe, and I bet you'll believe your children are perfect little angels! Any last words, little worm?!"
"Yeah."

- Player 2010/01/16(Sat)10:35 No. 111819 ID: 8f529c
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"You look pretty cute from up close."

- Player 2010/01/16(Sat)10:36 No. 111821 ID: 8f529c
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rrrrRRRAGH!

>SRRRRKK!<

- Player 2010/01/16(Sat)10:37 No. 111822 ID: 8f529c
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Plank: "FUCK-OW!"
Ax Bee: "Whoa!"

Careful, careful, cantfallcantfall

- Player 2010/01/16(Sat)10:38 No. 111823 ID: 8f529c
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Charlotte: "?! Hmph!"

Careful...

- Player 2010/01/16(Sat)10:39 No. 111824 ID: 8f529c
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>THMP!<

"OOF!"
Charlotte: "DIE!"

- Player 2010/01/16(Sat)10:39 No. 111825 ID: 8f529c
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"YOU die!"

- Player 2010/01/16(Sat)10:40 No. 111826 ID: 8f529c
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>THOK!<

- Player 2010/01/16(Sat)10:43 No. 111829 ID: 8f529c
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Charlotte: "GWEAA-AAAA-RRR-"

Critical Hit: Head wound
AD spent
Warning: ADP empty.

>BZZZKKKRKRKTSCHHHHHHHHHH<
--kkk? -- Kkrrrt! KKRRRKRRRKRRRKKKTTTT!!!--

Charlotte falls

>THUD!<
"OW!"

>>111829
Well fuck. Run back towards the halebard so you have something to defend yourself with.

You may have to use the plan we mentioned earlier of getting this spider to fight the big monster further in.

Yippie-Ki-Yay, Charlotte! Ahahahahaha, WOO!

Congratulations, you're now vaguely heroic. And also soon to be dead, unless you get the eff out of there to somewhere with smaller dimensions. Move yon legs, Player.

Charlotte's lights might not last forever now either.

Additionally, Charlotte was definitely a spider-thing. Some misreporting there, due to view angle.

Additionally...I wonder. Was Charlotte truly needed to guide her mother, and if so, what's going to happen now?

>Run towards halberd.

Halberd is in his inventory.

>Out of ADP.

...I wonder if ADP means Anti-Demon Points, or somesuch. Hmm. Or perhaps I'm going at it completely wrong. Any suggestions, fellow voices? SOMETHING was used in this fight, for sure. ADventurer Points? Oh, this is going to bug me forever.

>>111853
ADP is probably like 'Fate Points' or something. Basically you spend them to do dramatic things. You know, the unlikely and exceedingly effective moves that protagonists are apt to pull off.

Well, whatever they are, we just ran out of them.

>>111857
adenoside diphospate. he is EXAUSTED.

attempt to flee to a previous room, rest there.

>>111875
Actually ADP is the 'expended' form of cellular energy.. now if his ATP reserve was empty that idea would make more sense.

It's just fate/karma point he's spending.

- Player 2010/01/17(Sun)04:41 No. 112942 ID: 8f529c
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>he is EXAUSTED!
Yes I am. Nnnnghh....

>big monster
>move yon legs!

... Fuck you, Charlotte. Fuck you Big.

>>112942
Down that motherfucking potion and pray for streangth to return to your limbs! Come on player you can do it! Just imagine the exp you will get from this fight and all the bitches you will impress in the telling of it.

>>112945
Not sure downing random potions is a great idea, mate, but I'm guessing this advice is born of desperation anyway. Nick the potion, Player, we can decide whether to drink it in a second.
Oi, also, light up a torch or two. The spider might be afraid of fire, so we could possibly throw a torch at it, and we can also try burning the webs.

>>112975
It's a cure potion. Hopefully it also cures exhaustion. Otherwise we have some pretty hefty problems.

...They've blocked the other exits too. Damn. Sorry Player.

Well, this is it. Mother is pissed, and you've got nowhere to go. Get your halberd. It can double as a staff to lean on, and this might be your last chance to account for yourself. Stick it in her face, if you can. Those eyes were pretty vulnerable.

And tell her she's a horrible mother.

- Player 2010/01/17(Sun)10:05 No. 113008 ID: 8f529c
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Hff... you have a point, I'm gonna pocket this thing. I don' need to down it yet. Just need to breathe. Hff.

Player acquires Cure Potion

I remember the plan. Attack the straps, right? I hope it triggers something that'll save me... but how?

>halberd
If you know any good one-handed halberding techniques, I'm listening.

--krrrt ttkttkt--
"Yea, and I'M NOT AFRAID OF YOU!"
--kkkkkrrrttt-tttkkrrttkttrttkt--ttkkrrkkrrkktkkt--
"Well, and you are a horrible mother."

Now, if I knew what the hell she's saying....

>>113008
One handed? No. But you should be able to use your webbed arm to give some support to the halebard.

And Player. Remember to laugh, start laughing at this entire absurd situation. Just keep on laughing whatever the spider bitch does.

>>113008
I suggest trying to find something to cut the web off with. Maybe if you can get past Mother Spider and retrieve your sword, you can use that. If not, try scraping it on the ground or wall or something.

If not, what about the red demon's weapon? It was holding something that looked like what we would call a 'shotgun'.

Or maybe you could relight the torch and burn off the webs.

>Go into laughing hysterics.

No, don't do that.

>Stahlvern's weapon.

I think it was a crossbow and that it went poof along with the body of Stahlvern.

>Straps, the plan.

Well, attacking the straps and removing the gems could prevent another demon from doing the same trick Charlotte was doing and rejoining the fray, but I was more thinking of you sending the gems flying free when Charlotte was 'active' on that thing. Not just doing it in the hope that it might have a random benefit. Which it might, mind you.

Still, you could also just try to kill the mother.

One-handed halberd techniques? Not as such...But you DID use it one-handed overhead when you killed Stahlvern.

Another option is to use your body's momentum, and swing it around in circles, but that's rather predictable and could be easy to block...Or you could lose the grip on your only weapon. Plus, it'll make you dizzy after a few turns.

Lastly, there's always breaking the handle in twain and making an axe out of it.

>>113053
It's not so much about hysterics as it's about giving the impression of a crazy berserker.

But breaking the haft could probably be a good idea if you can do it. Otherwise I still think you could use your webbed arm for support.

Apologize for killing her beautiful daughter, right in front of her. That's a dick move, player.

- Player 2010/01/17(Sun)11:52 No. 113074 ID: 8f529c
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>rrrp<
Hmmn, the web gives a bit, I at least have a pivot to hold the base stance. Should be able to defend myself, maybe light thrusts or stabs.

And that swing was -- its a movement/balance thing. Its different when you don't have both arms.

And it only worked because I hit him in the face.

>break the handle
If I could do that, this would be a very crappy halberd.

>torch
How am I supposed to hold the flint? With my teeth?

--krrrtttkktt--

Large eyes allright.... Only if she got careless twice...

>>113074
I wonder if she actually has free will?

Try telling her to stay back.

>>113074
The fire didn't burn right? You should try to ger around her so you can attack from behind and the sides. She probably won't give you a free shot again at her face, but if you can mess up enough joints on her legs she should be crippled enough to let you get at her.

>>113074
its a light axe if you break it. you dont have much of a choice.

>Not easy to break.

Point. If you can use it as-is, well...Do that.

Hrm. A faint possibility. That slope. Any chance of tossing something small and hefty (metal relic) to dislodge one of the rocks there? If you let her move a bit forward she'd be well positioned to be distracted or brained by a tumbling rock. Or the impression of it, such as you tossing something up and yelling the equivalent of "Have some rockfall!", and then taking advantage of the attention slip to stab her in the face.

My general advice is, don't get pinned down or webbed into immobility. Those 'arms' can also be extended pretty far and can work semi-independently of one another. Think of it as fighting more than one opponent at a time. Ones with a big reach. She'll only need three-to-six of those legs to keep balance for most of the time.

This is assuming "large spider" physics aren't that different from the small ones'...which could be possible. Well, good luck anyway.

- Player 2010/01/17(Sun)14:15 No. 113220 ID: 8f529c
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No, Imean I can't break thye halberd 's shaft. If I could crack it on my own strength, it would have broken when I swung it at the summons.

"Uh.. can you hear me?"
--krrrttkktt--
"Look.... don't. Okay? Why dont we just go to our respective homes and forget all this?"
--kkkttkkttkkrrrt--

Anyone speaks spider-ese?

>>113220
I do, but I don't think you would want the translation. Long spidery prose short: It doesn't like you.

>>113220
She says "THANK YOU FOR SLAYING THE BEAST WHO WAS CONTROLLING ME, I NOW WANT TO REPAY YOU IN HOT STICKY SPIDER-SEX."

>>113220
I'm pretty sure none of us understand what it's saying.

Advance upon it.

I would suggest heading backwards to one of the doors now. Preferable not the one you just came through (as there is still yet another bigass monster back that way.)

- Player 2010/01/17(Sun)14:42 No. 113256 ID: 8f529c
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>it doesn't like you
>REPAY YOU IN HOT STICKY SPIDER-SEX
>none of us understand what it's saying.

I'm going with the last guy.
Forgive me if I'm taking the defensive approach.

>tac<

Dodge and strike at the joints. If we can disable her legs we should be able to wear her down and then deliver a killing blow.

Joint strikes are an idea, but he can't chop at 'em, making them a bit harder to disable. He can manage thrusts or stabs, which makes her eyes the obvious place to go after. Thing is, he has to maneuver past at least two carapace'd legs to get at 'em. And ol' mum's probably able to play ping-pong with him if he tries.

Hrm. Put a foot on the slave metal box, and ask her "So how're you planning to get back, ma'am?".

>>113256
...it just hit your weapon? It didn't try to kill you? Maybe it's trying to tell you to put it down.

I wonder if it will try to kill you at all? Keep defensive, don't make any hostile moves.

- Player 2010/01/17(Sun)15:46 No. 113363 ID: 8f529c
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>tac tac< >pssh< >tac<

Hmn, she's just pushing me back, some light sparring?

"Say... you dont fit these corridors. How are you planning to.. you know. Go back? Assuming you just live underground."
-- tttkkttt.... --

I've never seen a monster so disinterested.

Perhaps without a driver she lacks the impetus or the will to continue such a dangerous venture... hell she doesn't even seem particularly intelligent does she?

>>113369
Actually, I have the nagging suspicion she might indeed be intelligent. I almost got a 'I don't know' vibe from she sound she made just then... I wonder if she can comprehend what Player is saying? Maybe Player should say 'If you can understand me, tap the ground three times' or something similar to see whether she can or not.

...Or maybe she just wants to get at the pile of corpses/food you're standing next to. I don't know.

>>113376
Seconding this, but say "I'm sorry, I don't know your language but I want to know if you understand me" (or something similar.)

Might as well try not to offend her if she can understand you, right?

>>113363
She might try and push you back into that web behind you.

- Player 2010/01/17(Sun)16:48 No. 113451 ID: 981f70
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>tap< >tac<
Well, she ain't a genius, if thats what you mean... but still...

"Look, I dont speak spider. If you do understand the language, tap thrice."

- Player 2010/01/17(Sun)16:49 No. 113456 ID: 981f70
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>tap tap<

>.o!

You ask her to tap three times for yes, and she taps you twice on your head. Huh.

Maybe she means 'use your head'. Hmm. Look. Can you press us against her leg or something? We might be able to provide you with some thought-to-thought translation. I dunno. Never done it with a demon-spider before.

>>113474
Might as well try it. Just let her know what you're doing first so she doesn't freak out.

- Player 2010/01/17(Sun)17:49 No. 113494 ID: 981f70
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"Would you mind if I--"
--krrt--

.... yea, that won't work.

>>113494
Pff, fine. Still, 'Mother' hasn't raped your face off, so she probably doesn't want to fight.
This is your chance to get a ridiculously big ally, Player.

You just... sorta.. have to find a way to help her out. Huh.

>>113494
Scratch out a picture explaining what you're trying to do.

>>113494
Ask if she wants the straps removed.

>>113494
ask her to untangle your arm as a sign of güd peece. whatever that is where they live.

two choices, give us to her, we translate.

or simply admit she is some sort of idiotic god like lolth and adandon her there.

she is however hungry, and may actualy be signalizing that if you dont help her out (to eat your townsfolk) she will start with you while the remaining of her son summons more help.

BY THE BY, your glass clone may still be there. we are at least under watch, at utmost, guard up, invisible backstab soon!

Nerts, bad eye-punch associations. Guess we can count that one out.

>Befriend, make an ally.

No, somehow I think that's a bad idea in the long run. Truce for now, though.

>Glass clone still there.

Doubt it. It seemed tied to those big gems around the mother, and Player's nowhere near them now. You're right in that he might be observed through them still, though. There are a lot more crystals than the one Charlotte was using. Someone else might also arrive to take her role.

Hmh. She may want to get to the slaves. For food? For return transport? I have no idea. Maybe you can, I don't know...Just, y'know, leave?

Right now she doesn't seem too terribly upset that you killed her daughter. That's...I don't know what that's supposed to mean. Maybe she -did- need guidance of some kind.

>>113601
we could destroy the gems then.

i agree in ignoring mother, tho id like to kill it. the child wanted to feed a village to it.

- Player 2010/01/18(Mon)07:23 No. 113952 ID: 981f70
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>scratch out a picture
Hey, I can draw; but I cant draw THAT well.

Eh, I can do it myself I think. Just need some time, and a sharp edge.

>straps removed
>destroy the gems
... they do look important.

"Say... that harness looks pretty uncomfortable."
--rrkt?--
"I could get you out of it, just saying."
--ttt-kkrrtt-tkttt-kk--
"Look-- sorry about your daughter, but she was trying to kill me. And you heard her, she's safe at home. Come on! You know you can beat me to a pulp if I do something funny."
..... --kt--

- Player 2010/01/18(Mon)07:24 No. 113954 ID: 981f70
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Hmmmn. Highly magical, I say -- the underside of these straps are full of patterns. No idea about what exactly they do though.

Hmn, this one looks like an eye.

>>113952
Try to unbuckle them before you try cutting them. This is really starting to get strange now.

a eye as in? >>111823

destroy the straps, they can see us.

>>113954

After releasing the gems, give her a scratch on the head and cal her a good girl.

- Player 2010/01/18(Mon)07:51 No. 113963 ID: 981f70
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>they can see us
Its an eye-shaped pattern, do you think they're scrying?

.... I better be quick.
>klk!<

>rrrrrrrr<
Did you hear something?

- Player 2010/01/18(Mon)07:55 No. 113964 ID: 981f70
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>rrrrrrr-SCHWHHOF!<

"WAH!"

- Player 2010/01/18(Mon)07:56 No. 113965 ID: 981f70
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.... I guess that works too.

>>113965

See if you can get your torch back before the fire snuffs out.

>>113965
They'll probably try and come back.

I suggest finding a way to get the web off and leaving.

Any objections?

>>113965
I would say that's enough weird shit for one day. Let's gather up our loot and get out of here before more odd shit shows up.

>>113965
...Nice job! I'm sure you had no idea what you were doing, but being able to win in spite of that troublesome condition is an essessional and treasured skill in adventurers. Glad to see you have it.

...

Anyway, let's loot those demon corpses of as much as we can carry and get the hell out of dodge before some other nasty shows up, shall we?

Perhaps you activated an insta-return feature of some kind. It does seem she was sphagetti-sucked back the wormhole way she came from. Much like that other guy, now that I think about it.

Check the slaves. See if they're really dead, and if they ain't, continue doing that uncoupling thing, and check if you can wake them up. Mayhaps even try to waste a cure potion on it.

You need to go make sure the guards are away. And try to gather back your inventory, the sword and the chain. As well as clear away the webs. Torch fire will probably work. The torch by the slaves was extinguished by the "blood gush" so you may be able to re-light it if you don't want to waste a torch.

>Make sure the guards are okay.

Sorry, slip of the proverbial tongue.

Hrm. Hey, Player? What's your current inventory?

player, check out where the web went. its likely she is now restrained.

inb4 pokemon sidetrack

- Player 2010/01/18(Mon)10:27 No. 113987 ID: 2b255f
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>inventory?
Idunno. You're the ones in that pocket, you tell me.
And seriously, stop calling it an inventory. It makes me feel like I have a general store in my backpocket.

Nothing of value... I prettymuch destroyed the rope when trying to get them free earlier.


... the middle demon-girl-thing still has a pulse...

>>113987
Well then get her to drink the potion. That way you can get her to carry more junk out of the dungeon.

That and you can ask her just what the fuck is going on. But for now lets get her up and running and get back to town. I think your bruised and battered body would really appreciate a hot meal, a hot bath and a decent bed soon.

>>113987
it would be best to question her loyalty before that.

cant you find a way to wake her up? a little of water maybe?

- Player 2010/01/18(Mon)10:53 No. 113997 ID: 2b255f
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She isn' swallowing, so she's coming with me. Father said the acolyte can treat wounded people, I hope he can care for demons. I hope some good comes from this.

>her loyalty
... I'll tie her up.


I'll get my sword as soon as I pass by it. It's probably the other side of the room. And then we'll see if spider silk is flammable.

Am I forgetting anything, besides the guard?

>>113997
loot? i am thinking we forgot to check where the spider went to when it vanished.

>>113997
Pick up the chain as well as the strange metal object on that you climbed up and spotted while going in. And bring the weird box with you as well.

- Player 2010/01/18(Mon)11:37 No. 114006 ID: 2b255f
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>where the spider went
Beats me. Back to hell, for all that I care. Which might be accurate.

>taking anything
Maybe you forgot, I'm not full of pockets. And I wont leave this place without my blade.

>>114006
No I didn't forget. But you should be able to find ways to tie it to your body with the chain or store it in your codpiece or just carry the damn stuff in your hands. Show a little bit of imagination, it's like you never tried to loot a dungeon before.

nononono you dont get. i think she was somehow resized back to fit the original container where it was.

look for some sort of trinket near you. there was a wirlwind of web somewhere around there.

- Player 2010/01/18(Mon)13:45 No. 114038 ID: 2b255f
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>tie it to your body, store in your codpiece, carry in your hands
>whirlwind of web
Sometimes you're just silly.

... scratch that.

- Player 2010/01/18(Mon)13:46 No. 114039 ID: 2b255f
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"Sometimes, you're not."

Well, he's got us there.

>5Copper's pokeman theory.

Not web, and definitely not pokemon. It was a teleport thing, I think. If you check the return method of Stahlvern's body and the demon mage, you'll see that it was similar, only smaller in scale.

>New achievement, same ol' sidequest, interesting tip.

Puzzles, hmm? That's interesting.

http://tgchan.org/kusaba/questdis/res/317271.html Commentary track at discussion thread, for all the interested parties.

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